Page 1 of 2

Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:16 pm
by Chris
Jarred Tinordi just signed a contract with the Montreal Canadiens. As far as contracts go on my team, I was at 50 before Tinordi signed. Do I need to make a trade?

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:23 pm
by bills09
im not 100% sure how that works, but I was thinking about this kind of a situation earlier today..
no sure the precedant but I would assume yes?
or do we allow contract slides.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:26 pm
by Chris
When I was doing my roster sheet prior to the first roster submission, Mike told me I wasn't allowed to slide contracts. Maybe ELCs don't count until the following year?

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:33 pm
by Nick
Obviously need a discussion on it.

However I'd lean towards sliding or not still counts as a contract, which i believe is true for the NHL.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:35 pm
by bills09
Nick wroteCOLONObviously need a discussion on it.

However I'd lean towards sliding or not still counts as a contract, which i believe is true for the NHL.
if the Tinordi contract doesnt count then all junior players contracts should not count correct?

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:38 pm
by Mike
bills09 wroteCOLON
Nick wroteCOLONObviously need a discussion on it.

However I'd lean towards sliding or not still counts as a contract, which i believe is true for the NHL.
if the Tinordi contract doesnt count then all junior players contracts should not count correct?
No. All junior contracts count, we don't do the slide thing.

If we want to allow exemptions for people signing during the season that would be a modification to the current rules.

I suggest allowing the GM one roster period to get drop a contract.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:57 pm
by Chris
I propose no move is necessary considering the contract wasn't signed prior to the season. In addition, if we're determining waiver exemptions prior to the season opener, why can't we treat Tinordi's contract as one that's not even functional until the following season?

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:50 pm
by bills09
Mike wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLON
Nick wroteCOLONObviously need a discussion on it.

However I'd lean towards sliding or not still counts as a contract, which i believe is true for the NHL.
if the Tinordi contract doesnt count then all junior players contracts should not count correct?
No. All junior contracts count, we don't do the slide thing.

If we want to allow exemptions for people signing during the season that would be a modification to the current rules.

I suggest allowing the GM one roster period to get drop a contract.
I like it.
force the tough decision.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:29 pm
by Shep
I like the 1 roster period.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:40 pm
by Nick
Seems to be simple (good) and make sense to me as well.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:46 pm
by Chris
It makes zero sense.

For one thing, the contract isn't even functional until the following season. Tinordi cannot be called up until after his junior season ends. Secondly, it's not fair to teams at the limit; they shouldn't have to make room for a random ELC signing -- they shouldn't have to account for those contracts that they would otherwise account for had this rule been in place prior to the season opener. Every GM here has submitted their rosters after some turnover to meet the 50 contract cap limit. Now we have to account for those in-season ELC signings from a guy who won't be playing in the NHL this year?

Retarded.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:57 pm
by Shep
I've got like 20 contracts that won't be playing in the NHL this year.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:02 pm
by Chris
Sure, but did any of them sign in-season?

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:10 pm
by Shep
Cuntacular Chris wroteCOLONSure, but did any of them sign in-season?
No, but that's just something we have to deal with if it happens.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:10 pm
by Chris
I'm shocked that this is the first time this issue has come up in the two years this league has been around.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:14 pm
by Shep
Probably because nobody is ever at 50 :)

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:16 pm
by bills09
people usually leave a little wiggle room lol.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:21 pm
by Chris
Yea, well... as a rebuilding team, it's important to have as many assets as possible.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:22 pm
by bills09
package some for an upgrade then.

Re: Question about Contract Limits & ELCs

PostedCOLON Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:24 pm
by Chris
I'm trying to. Some people are twisting my arm trying to get a variety of different players cheap lol