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So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:50 pm
by Topher
So here it is two guys are coming hard at Ovy, he is not a player I need to move but there have been two guys with some fantastic offers let me know your guys opinions here are the choices:

1.) Mike Riberio + Darren Helm + Blake Wheeler + James Wisniewski for Alex Ovechkin


2.) Mike Riberio + Darren Helm + Patrick Marleau + James Wisniewski for Alex Ovechkin + Josh Bailey


3.) Pavel Datsyuk + Vinny Lecavalier + Mark Giordano + Ville Leino for Alex Ovechkin

4.) None are good enough and move on



Please guys need the opinions because its best to get a vote to see where I really am at.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:57 pm
by Shep
Well, I've made the mistake of trading him under market value.

I'd want two young, H2H complete studs that load up on points as well as periphery.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:15 pm
by KapG
going to think some more before I vote.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:16 pm
by The BBKL Insider
the best offer there is shiv's....that said, see whats out there

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:19 pm
by shooker
I think option 2 and imo by far the best.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:28 pm
by shooker
Snipeshow wroteCOLONWell, I've made the mistake of trading him under market value.

I'd want two young, H2H complete studs that load up on points as well as periphery.
young is over rated. 25-30ish NHLers are in their primes.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:29 pm
by Robin Hood
guys i see a lot of BS in this forum and on msn. i cant even believe a poll is needed. its not even close LOL.

datsyuk >> ribeiro
lecavalier >> helm
giordano > wis
leino > wheeler

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:32 pm
by Nick
SuperMario wroteCOLONguys i see a lot of BS in this forum and on msn. i cant even believe a poll is needed. its not even close LOL.

datsyuk >> ribeiro
lecavalier >> helm
giordano > wis
leino > wheeler


LOL... your jokes shiv.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:33 pm
by Shep
shooker wroteCOLON
Snipeshow wroteCOLONWell, I've made the mistake of trading him under market value.

I'd want two young, H2H complete studs that load up on points as well as periphery.
young is over rated. 25-30ish NHLers are in their primes.
I didn't mean too young.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:33 pm
by Robin Hood
facey wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLONguys i see a lot of BS in this forum and on msn. i cant even believe a poll is needed. its not even close LOL.

datsyuk >> ribeiro
lecavalier >> helm
giordano > wis
leino > wheeler


LOL... your jokes shiv.
LOL this poll proves that BBKL is a league where 10 gms play against each other and manipulate 20 other gms. Isn't Chris your friend?

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:36 pm
by KapG
facey wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLONguys i see a lot of BS in this forum and on msn. i cant even believe a poll is needed. its not even close LOL.

datsyuk >> ribeiro
lecavalier >> helm
giordano > wis
leino > wheeler


LOL... your jokes shiv.
its not that far off.

datsyuk >> ribeiro for sure.
lecavalier > helm (regardless of the fact vinny makes more)
giordano vs wis I might give the nod to wis. However, giordano is a beast.
leino and wheeler would be close to a wash. Although the argument could be made for either depending on what you see in each player.


I voted for shiv. I would probably wait to see what is out there a bit longer though. It's not like his value is going to suddenly drop.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:36 pm
by Robin Hood
by the way Chris in option #2 you lose bailey. In option #3 you keep him. so option #3 MINUS option #2 =

Datsyuk + Lecavalier + Giordano + Leino + Bailey

vs

Marleau + Ribeiro + Wis + Helm

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:36 pm
by Shep
I voted to see what's out there..

Option 2 without Bailey might be enticing.

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PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:38 pm
by Scott
Easily option 2 but that's because I wouldn't touch Vinny and his contract with a 10 foot poll.

But I can and will beat all of the above

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:39 pm
by Nick
Shiv, not getting into a 1v1 with you here.. i think my offer kicks the shit out of yours. I don't believe you've checked the cbs/h2h stats... ending it there.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:39 pm
by Robin Hood
Lets analyze trades without bias:

Trade 1

Team A: Datsyuk
Team B: Ribeiro

Trade 2
Team A: Lecavalier
Team B: Helm

Trade 3
Team A: Giordano
Team B: Wisneiwski

Trade 4
Team A: Leino
Team B: Wheeler

Trade 5

Team A: Datsyuk + Lecavalier + Bailey
Team B: Marleau + Ribeiro

In each trade, Team A either wins or ties. Whoever says no is either an idiot or lying. The amount of politics in bbkl is disgusting.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:41 pm
by Nick
Shiv I dunno how anyone takes you seriously.

Please check some # and/or think before responding... might be weird for you to not be proven wrong though.... pretty big trend in progress.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:42 pm
by Robin Hood
facey wroteCOLONShiv, not getting into a 1v1 with you here.. i think my offer kicks the shit out of yours. I don't believe you've checked the cbs/h2h stats... ending it there.
keep going nick. you should be ashamed of yourself if chris is your friend.

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:50 pm
by shooker
SuperMario wroteCOLON
facey wroteCOLONShiv, not getting into a 1v1 with you here.. i think my offer kicks the shit out of yours. I don't believe you've checked the cbs/h2h stats... ending it there.
keep going nick. you should be ashamed of yourself if chris is your friend.
didnt you hear kareem none of us are friends

Re: So I don't have to MSN everyone, opinions needed

PostedCOLON Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:55 pm
by armandtanzarian
I think they are close but I personally like Shiv's offer. I also agree with Scotts assessment on salary. With that said Vinny would be a valuable guy to a team in a rebuild, so he does hold value.