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Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:00 pm
by Shep
anton wroteCOLONthere is nothing to discuss.

it's complete re-start or bust. there is no fair/logical way of just giving bottom teams assets.

and because there is no way in hell all 30 GMs agree to a re-start, we'll just have to move on.

it's not like the bottom teams are fleeing the league anyway.
Exactly.

IMO nothing more needs to be discussed. At least half of those that have commented are against it. We needed all 30 to agree.

There is no way to 'create' parity, especially by losing a player on your team for nothing because you do well. That would NEVER work.

I'd just trade for an overpaid bum, store him in the minors and "drop" him when the time comes.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:02 pm
by Shep
mr. bruin wroteCOLONoh dear. I am going to bow out of this discussion until the off season. I am still in the playoffs and hope to move on. The thought of me giving up a Kesler/Iginla/Zetterberg/Krejci/Seabrook/Getzlaf as a penalty because i made good trades and did well in the playoffs makes me want to throw up. So I will enter this discussion later...
Yeah that's a terrible idea IMO.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:23 pm
by Scott
I'm down with a reset

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:01 pm
by bills09
The Devil wroteCOLONI'm down with a reset
If its a fantasy draft im in but not a complete reset.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:02 pm
by Scott
bills09 wroteCOLON
The Devil wroteCOLONI'm down with a reset
If its a fantasy draft im in but not a complete reset.
That's because your team's garbage and you're a pussy ;)

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:10 pm
by bills09
The Devil wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLON
The Devil wroteCOLONI'm down with a reset
If its a fantasy draft im in but not a complete reset.
That's because your team's garbage and you're a pussy ;)
Lol more I dont wanna be the Sens if its a complete reset. haha.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:16 pm
by Scott
bills09 wroteCOLON
The Devil wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLON
The Devil wroteCOLONI'm down with a reset
If its a fantasy draft im in but not a complete reset.
That's because your team's garbage and you're a pussy ;)
Lol more I dont wanna be the Sens if its a complete reset. haha.
Obviously.. I wouldn't want the Devils.. outside of Kovy, Zajac & Parise of course.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:23 pm
by kyuss
lol, i can't believe some of you guys..

when i was advocating for some form of free agency because the very worst teams would have had no chance to compete any time soon otherwise, and because the talent collected on the top teams is not managed by morons like when they got it, i was insulted by some, called a whiner and hopeless loser by others and such.. smartly trading a lot was all it would take to make any team a contender very soon ..and i was only making excuses for myself.. (when actually i was never referring to my team in the first place).. if i remember correctly the only GMs that were not against me were the one who ignored the whole thing lol; even Scott who started that argument apparently ended up changing his mind.

And yes, competing the whole regular seasons against some terrible teams takes away part of the fun, especially for the top teams; guess what, one year ago that was already the case.

Now to provide the worst teams a chance to improve faster you're suggesting to nullify everything and restart the whole thing?
when back then no one could even contemplate making one or two of their players available for FA?

Obviously i'm AGAINST any form of restart.
Would be very unfair to the ones who have been working a lot to build the future of their team.
And not only i did work like crazy for that, the challenge of building for the long term moving up from a bad team like the one i inherited was the main reason i wanted to join this league..

as for giving a better chance to move up for terrible teams, the only somehow fair (and realistic) way to do that would still be agreeing on some form of free agency; something that last year thread suggests would be very complicated to achieve.
btw, talking free agency never meant managing open biddings on the forum.. as we use real salaries and would be too complicated anyway. The concept was that players with expiring contracts that wouldn't fit into the team's cap as per playoff rosters would be lost to the market.
A 'market' that actually in our system would probably mean some form of draft.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:24 pm
by anton
keep 3 + fantasy draft would be amazing...but a complete clusterfuck.

that draft would be MASSIVE.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:38 pm
by tyler
This discussion is going in the wrong direction .. always resorting to backstabs etc. Just discuss the topic at hand or dont post.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:53 pm
by Mike
There will be no reset.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:09 pm
by anton
Image

mike, what did u think of backbone?

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:06 pm
by Nick
bergey wroteCOLONThis discussion is going in the wrong direction .. always resorting to backstabs etc. Just discuss the topic at hand or dont post.
jamacian rum + ginger ale or disaronno + orange juice please kind sir, and of course the loaded nachos. Until that time you have no voice IMO.


Now what were we talking about?

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:38 pm
by tyler
Yeah well im beating nick in scrabble on the Iphone.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:00 pm
by Nick
bergey wroteCOLONYeah well im beating nick in scrabble on the Iphone.
nifacey - 138
bergey16 - 137

Opinion -2.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:26 pm
by tyler
Your ruthless.

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:51 pm
by Nick
bergey wroteCOLONYour ruthless.
* You're *

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:59 pm
by Scott
facey wroteCOLON
bergey wroteCOLONYour ruthless.
* You're *
LMAO :lol:

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:41 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Mike wroteCOLONThere will be no reset.
Spoken from Jesus himself

thank you mike!! A reset would completely mess up 2 years worth of work!

Re: Take FWIW

PostedCOLON Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:24 pm
by Tony
I'm down for whatever the majority thinks is best for the league ...