Message to the league...

[Mash]

BBKLers,

Rather pathetic it has to come to this, but as all of you know I have been very professional with the way I have handled all the recent events and try really hard to keep everyone up to date with what is going on within the league, but recently all I have been getting is slack and complaints from everyone. I'm tired of putting in all my time for this league and helping the website grow, to just hear some GROWN MEN act like children...it is really pathetic. I'm obviously not going to quit because my feelings got hurt because I'm better than that...but here is what I AM going to do:

With the recent resignation of Scott, he has been around the forums acting on emotions instead of logic, doing no good for the league or the site and causing disturbances when what we really need are constructive members helping to bring this league to its highest level of performance. This being said, I am tired of it and I WILL move this league forward with, or without Scott and his followers. I don't want to see him go, however, his behaviour is disrupting myself and the rest of the Admin/CC from moving forward. He will be issued a temporary ban until he can prove that he truly wants to be a constructive member of this community.

I realize many of you are going to have a problem with this, so to those few I say this: I have been trying very hard to be "friends" with everyone and keep yo all in the loop WHILE I attempt (behind the scenes) to make this site grow and reach its full potential. If you do not like my decision or think that I am doing my job as an Admin poorly, please feel free to PM me or talk to me on MSN. However, if you just want to bitch and moan feel free to find the door on your own. This league is one of the, if not THE best fantasy hockey leagues going...and believe it or not it IS bigger than any one person.

We WILL move forward and be a stronger, better league for the upcoming season; so my question is do you want to be a part of it? Or are you more interested in all the dramatics?

[Chris]

Not complaining, but I think there are a lot of loose ends from Scott's decision to resign. He might be lashing out at certain people, but the message seemed pretty clear -- there are certain details that seemed unfair to Scott and such as it is, deserves to be looked at before the BBKL takes a step forward and away from this mess.

[Shep]

I support Mike in any decision that was made as he, like Mash and I would put the league's best interest ahead of anything on a personal level.

[Arian The Insider]

i thought you were quitting for a second there

[Chris]

I should be clear. Mike's decision to remove Scott from CBS admin and forum privileges is very vague. I don't know the details other than Scott's, but we would be going backwards without some kind of explanation from Mike to fully clear up any questions. I should also point out that this wasn't a decision Scott made in haste -- he's been thinking about this for months now. If Scott feels there's been a history of disrespect from Mike and others, then we need to find out why, who, when, where, and what. And I have to wonder whether the league can coexist respectfully when people like Mike are making league decisions without an explanation. The CC and administrators need to be clear and transparent. Failure to do so will only deepen the divide.

[Mash]

I should be clear. Mike's decision to remove Scott from CBS admin and forum privileges is very vague. I don't know the details other than Scott's, but we would be going backwards without some kind of explanation from Mike to fully clear up any questions. I should also point out that this wasn't a decision Scott made in haste -- he's been thinking about this for months now. If Scott feels there's been a history of disrespect from Mike and others, then we need to find out why, who, when, where, and what. And I have to wonder whether the league can coexist respectfully when people like Mike are making league decisions without an explanation. The CC and administrators need to be clear and transparent. Failure to do so will only deepen the divide.

Mike had GOOD reason, and solid evidence for his decision, and he does not need to explain himself to you. The Admin/CC all agreed with his actions and that is the way it works around here. Unlike the majority of the league Mike does not make moves based on emotions. I backed him with every choice he made, and he was aware of my backing before anything was done.

[Mash]

Perhaps I should be the one to BE CLEAR....The Admin team alongside the CC make decisions for the league. Nothing is done without getting approval first. If the issue has to do with bettering the community and has no direct RULES implication the Admins have full power to do as they see fit. That is why there is three of us.

[inferno31]

Everyone grow the fuck up, its fantasy hockey I get emotions get tense but there are more important things in life take a breath and step back before you do something rash.

In terms of not having to explain himself, I do think someone should explain to the league why someone gets removed at least a bit. Until I spoke to you Mash I had no idea what was going on and as I told you had only heard one side of the story. I back the admins and CC, but its easy for emotions to get heated when people only know one side of the story.
Also Mash lets never fight again. I'm sorry.

[kimmer]

I got so sick of reading ppls shit that I was honestly gonna post in that shook controversy thread that mash shud just mute/block the fuck out of all the forum accts from each other so all we have left is a fucking cbs comminication tool and msn to talk amongst ourselves for trades and given only the opportunity to post to confirm trades, and see how ppl like it without the ability to communoicate, becuase he's right. This is a huge joke that ppl act this way and while I've kept as quiet and non-judgmental as possible, somethings gotta come out of my righteous mouth!

[Chris]

I should be clear. Mike's decision to remove Scott from CBS admin and forum privileges is very vague. I don't know the details other than Scott's, but we would be going backwards without some kind of explanation from Mike to fully clear up any questions. I should also point out that this wasn't a decision Scott made in haste -- he's been thinking about this for months now. If Scott feels there's been a history of disrespect from Mike and others, then we need to find out why, who, when, where, and what. And I have to wonder whether the league can coexist respectfully when people like Mike are making league decisions without an explanation. The CC and administrators need to be clear and transparent. Failure to do so will only deepen the divide.

Mike had GOOD reason, and solid evidence for his decision, and he does not need to explain himself to you. The Admin/CC all agreed with his actions and that is the way it works around here. Unlike the majority of the league Mike does not make moves based on emotions. I backed him with every choice he made, and he was aware of my backing before anything was done.

And what were they? He not only removed Scott from those privileges, he set the wheels in motion for Scott's resignation. The league is based on the cooperation of 30 managers, not a group of admins and CC. If that's the case, count me out, Matt.

I will leave it to you or someone else to remove me if an explanation isn't forthcoming.

[Robin Hood]

You're my hero Mash.

EDIT - I think the league would appreciate a simple reason why Scott was removed. That is all. I trust you and Mike though.

[kimmer]

And can someone please just explain to this modernized man Chris (VAN) as to why Scott was removed? I don't wanna see any more ugliness. Do it via PM, MSN, whatever privately

[Mash]

I should be clear. Mike's decision to remove Scott from CBS admin and forum privileges is very vague. I don't know the details other than Scott's, but we would be going backwards without some kind of explanation from Mike to fully clear up any questions. I should also point out that this wasn't a decision Scott made in haste -- he's been thinking about this for months now. If Scott feels there's been a history of disrespect from Mike and others, then we need to find out why, who, when, where, and what. And I have to wonder whether the league can coexist respectfully when people like Mike are making league decisions without an explanation. The CC and administrators need to be clear and transparent. Failure to do so will only deepen the divide.

Mike had GOOD reason, and solid evidence for his decision, and he does not need to explain himself to you. The Admin/CC all agreed with his actions and that is the way it works around here. Unlike the majority of the league Mike does not make moves based on emotions. I backed him with every choice he made, and he was aware of my backing before anything was done.

And what were they? He not only removed Scott from those privileges, he set the wheels in motion for Scott's resignation. The league is based on the cooperation of 30 managers, not a group of admins and CC. If that's the case, count me out, Matt.

I will leave it to you or someone else to remove me if an explanation isn't forthcoming.

You want an explanation? Fine.

Scott has shown countless times to make rash decisions made on pure emotions and has also clearly stated multiple times that he has little to no regard for the rules in place.
This league also NEVER censors people by deleting or editing someone's post to protect themselves or change the way a thread is going, Scott did this and was caught.
Scott is a great GM and I very much wanted him to stay as a GM, however he was not fit to be in a position of such power/authority at the given time.
I know more than anyone the effect Scott had on this league and the amazing work he did for it.

The evidence is all in archived threads that you can go look through if you want to.

You of all people I expected to trust my judgement, as I always trust yours. I am always open to discuss any matter/choice that is made by anyone in ANY committee. I just would rather do it in a more civil way then this where my response yet again weighs on another person quitting.

[Mash]

And can someone please just explain to this modernized man Chris (VAN) as to why Scott was removed? I don't wanna see any more ugliness. Do it via PM, MSN, whatever privately

I will respond to anyone they way they communicate with me...if they choose not to read my original post CLEARLY asking anyone to message me privately so be it, I will respond publicly.

[bma]

Honestly, out of this league. Matt, Mike and Shep are some of the most level headed guys here. Like Mash said, they don't make decisions based off emotions. People are way too sensitive and emotional here, and when things don't go their way, they threaten to quit or quit. Lets take it for what this is supposed to be which is a fun way to chat and be involved in a super duper hockey league. I agree with you Mash. Do whats best for the league and let's move on.

[Mash]

I have to go out for a few hours, I will be back around 10 oclock est time. If anyone has any issues while im gone and want to talk about it right away please feel free to contact me on my phone. PM me, emails go directly to my phone or you can text/bbm me. you will find my information in the administration thread.

I ASK, no one make any stupid decisions to quit while im gone....

[Shep]

Perhaps I should be the one to BE CLEAR....The Admin team alongside the CC make decisions for the league. Nothing is done without getting approval first. If the issue has to do with bettering the community and has no direct RULES implication the Admins have full power to do as they see fit. That is why there is three of us.

[bma]

I dont want to say I told you so..but I never saw Scott as a good person to have authority/run the league. And this was nearly 2 years ago..when I was in CC and what not. I dont know the right word for it..but he was just too "informal" to run a league.

[Chris]

I should be clear. Mike's decision to remove Scott from CBS admin and forum privileges is very vague. I don't know the details other than Scott's, but we would be going backwards without some kind of explanation from Mike to fully clear up any questions. I should also point out that this wasn't a decision Scott made in haste -- he's been thinking about this for months now. If Scott feels there's been a history of disrespect from Mike and others, then we need to find out why, who, when, where, and what. And I have to wonder whether the league can coexist respectfully when people like Mike are making league decisions without an explanation. The CC and administrators need to be clear and transparent. Failure to do so will only deepen the divide.

Mike had GOOD reason, and solid evidence for his decision, and he does not need to explain himself to you. The Admin/CC all agreed with his actions and that is the way it works around here. Unlike the majority of the league Mike does not make moves based on emotions. I backed him with every choice he made, and he was aware of my backing before anything was done.

And what were they? He not only removed Scott from those privileges, he set the wheels in motion for Scott's resignation. The league is based on the cooperation of 30 managers, not a group of admins and CC. If that's the case, count me out, Matt.

I will leave it to you or someone else to remove me if an explanation isn't forthcoming.

You want an explanation? Fine.

Scott has shown countless times to make rash decisions made on pure emotions and has also clearly stated multiple times that he has little to no regard for the rules in place.
This league also NEVER censors people by deleting or editing someone's post to protect themselves or change the way a thread is going, Scott did this and was caught.
Scott is a great GM and I very much wanted him to stay as a GM, however he was not fit to be in a position of such power/authority at the given time.
I know more than anyone the effect Scott had on this league and the amazing work he did for it.

The evidence is all in archived threads that you can go look through if you want to.

You of all people I expected to trust my judgement, as I always trust yours. I am always open to discuss any matter/choice that is made by anyone in ANY committee. I just would rather do it in a more civil way then this where my response yet again weighs on another person quitting.

Mash, I'm posting instead of PMing because apparently there are details the CC and Administrators are unwilling to disclose to the rest of the league. If that's the case, I think the rest of us deserve to know why. Telling me to look through archived threads is a little disingenuous, Mash. I fully trust YOUR judgement, but I don't trust Mike's because he's shown himself to be an 'unrelenting asshole' to everyone who dares to subvert his authority. And since your judgement seems based on Mike's judgement, I'm deducing that Mike had some evidence of unsportsmanlike behaviour from Scott -- I think the league deserves to know what this unsportsmanlike behaviour was.

[Shep]

Scott did this and was caught..

To add to that, he also denied it.