LAK - PHO

[brockbirds]

If anyone thinks I made a deal Chara + henrique for Schenn, I don't even know what to say to that. Ridiculous.

[kyuss]

As Thom hinted, Muzzin is probably the guy whose perceived value varies so much among GMs that it generates negative opinions on the deal. I guess Jim is much higher on him than most other BBKL GMs.

[Sensfanjosh]

I'll admit I'm not a Muzzin fan, but Barbs projects as a bottom pairing 2nd pp kind of guy, and MacWillam is nothing special, my issue is the difference between Henrique and Schenn, even if you like Schenn more doesn't get you to give up Chara for the 3 dmen that he landed.

[kimmer]

Fair deal move on

[Florida Chris]

Humm, I actually like it for Brockbirds. Steve does better next yr, but the Bird man kills this moving forward.

[tyler]

I like it for Phoenix. I'm agree with any deals that make a big splash - Brock, pays well to get a deal done. Beauty.

[kimmer]

If ur not a muzzin fan i can see why one wud hate it for phx. To me schenn/henrique swap can go either way... Like really its about whos gonna get u more stats - ppl constantly forget its noy always about which of the youngsters is the BETTER PLAYER"... Like what is a "better" player in h2h hockey just stfu gtfo

[tyler]

Lordy, should I just show myself out now?

To touch on this comment. Every GM views a trade differently, values players different & comments on trades in different ways. Dont let the heat get to you, build the team how YOU want. I've lost trades just to land a guy i like to watch (Traded for Nash twice and lost both times).

[kimmer]

Ya lol goddamn that last nash/stammer trade bergen did seriously made me think he jus entered the league 2 days before that trade... And at the time he was like a veteran

[kimmer]

Link that trade and show him bro im 2 lazy

[tyler]

Ya lol goddamn that last nash/stammer trade bergen did seriously made me think he jus entered the league 2 days before that trade... And at the time he was like a veteran

I still talk about that trade with nick, tell him he owes me one when we talk trades lol.

[tyler]

Ya lol goddamn that last nash/stammer trade bergen did seriously made me think he jus entered the league 2 days before that trade... And at the time he was like a veteran

To New Jersey: Rick Nash, Brooks Laich, Michael Ryder, Peter Andersson
To Tampa Bay: Steve Stamkos, Thomas Vanek

[The BBKL Insider]

ya, i remember that trade

awful.

[tyler]

ya, i remember that trade

awful.

/shrug Got Nash.

[Nick]

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that is a not a lie, only two Nash fans in the league making a Nash trade... other aspect is that the league thinks it values Vanek a ton, but does not at all. I've traded him away at least two times for very little, and both times that was after extensive shopping. I'd wager every time Vanek is dealt the peanut gallery says the side that got him won, they would have paid more, etc

[The BBKL Insider]

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that is a not a lie, only two Nash fans in the league making a Nash trade... other aspect is that the league thinks it values Vanek a ton, but does not at all. I've traded him away at least two times for very little, and both times that was after extensive shopping. I'd wager every time Vanek is dealt the peanut gallery says the side that got him won, they would have paid more, etc

this is actually bang on

on the flip side i'm a nash fan also...that said Berg once made me an offer i couldn't refuse...i believe it was:

kadri, strome, saad for nash

or something along those lines.

[Lee]

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that is a not a lie, only two Nash fans in the league making a Nash trade... other aspect is that the league thinks it values Vanek a ton, but does not at all. I've traded him away at least two times for very little, and both times that was after extensive shopping. I'd wager every time Vanek is dealt the peanut gallery says the side that got him won, they would have paid more, etc

What Vanek is worth and what one is willing to pay for him are 2 different things.

[Nick]

Thomas Vanek for Tomas Jurco, Brad Stuart

Thomas Vanek for Zach Bogosian & 2014 1st Rounder (PIT)

Thomas Vanek for Dougie Hamilton & 2014 2nd Rounder (TBL)

Thomas Vanek, Peter Regin, 2015 4th Rounder (NSH) for Nino Niederreiter, Vincent Trocheck, Tim Erixon, 2015 3rd Rounder (BUF)

Thomas Vanek, Curtis McElhinney, 2015 1st rounder (CAR) for Marian Gaborik, Marco Scandella, Eric Fehr, 2014 1st rounder (NSH)

Thomas Vanek, Steve Eminger, Patrik Nemeth for David Rundblad, Nino Niederreiter, David Booth

Thomas Vanek for Ryan O'Reilly, Greg McKegg

Thomas Vanek for Brooks Laich & Max Talbot

Thomas Vanek, P.K. Subban for Patrick Kane, Jamie McBain, Carl Klingberg

Thomas Vanek for Zack Kassian , Nsh 1st 2012


2012



the guy is moved a lot, and it doesn't often appear to be for a lot of value.

[brockbirds]

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that is a not a lie, only two Nash fans in the league making a Nash trade... other aspect is that the league thinks it values Vanek a ton, but does not at all. I've traded him away at least two times for very little, and both times that was after extensive shopping. I'd wager every time Vanek is dealt the peanut gallery says the side that got him won, they would have paid more, etc

I'm sure this isn't a unique situation to Vanek. For me, as valuable as Chara is for BBKL numbers, he's been available since I started here (posted in the original trade block), and nobody has exactly been banging down my door to pick him up. Cap hit, age, potential decline, etc. really limit what anyone seems to want to pay.

[Nick]

Yep - high cap hit, makes guys hard to move. puts a GM into a spot of (as Lee alluded to), " he's worth more to that to my team" - compared to " what the other 29 GMs are willing to pay".