If anyone wants Grabo, land Abdelkader from PHX and the same deal is on the table. Great opportunity to land a 2nd line C for cheap. You can post as a 3-way to guarantee the cycle for yourself.To PHX: Mikhail Grabovski
To PIT: Justin Abdelkader
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I have offered PHX the following deal which was rejected:

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i remember I owned abdelkader once upon a time
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Gallagher and Grabovski for FIlppula.
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Wtf nicks a worse gm than i expected
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LOLgooker wroteCOLONWtf nicks a worse gm than i expected
quote of the month
that said, ya, i dont understand how someone rejects Grabo for Abdakater...unless he has cap issues.

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grabo is sick...
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maybe abdelkader is ennzie's "guy you wont trade for some reason".
Not a big fan of posting offers in an attempt to make another gm look stupid. I'd personally take that deal in a second but each guy is entitled to trade and not trade who ever he wants. Maybe he just wont trade him and it doesn't matter what the offer is. I think that is fine.
Not a big fan of posting offers in an attempt to make another gm look stupid. I'd personally take that deal in a second but each guy is entitled to trade and not trade who ever he wants. Maybe he just wont trade him and it doesn't matter what the offer is. I think that is fine.

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Why do you always post as if you're on some higher ground than everyone else whose motives you always question?shooker wroteCOLONmaybe abdelkader is ennzie's "guy you wont trade for some reason".
Not a big fan of posting offers in an attempt to make another gm look stupid. I'd personally take that deal in a second but each guy is entitled to trade and not trade who ever he wants. Maybe he just wont trade him and it doesn't matter what the offer is. I think that is fine.
I made this thread because I am confident someone will be able to work out a 3-way with Enzzie here to land Grabo. That is all.

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still did throw him under the bus a little...
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we all place certain value on guys differently
like i said in my anton's thread about "the guy u wont trade"
it woudl take an insane offer to get clifford from me.....and really, he's no more than a bottom 6'er who hits a shit ton and PK's a little.
like i said in my anton's thread about "the guy u wont trade"
it woudl take an insane offer to get clifford from me.....and really, he's no more than a bottom 6'er who hits a shit ton and PK's a little.

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Look at the original post...I said I offered, he rejected, if anyone else wants it, make a deal with Enzzie. That is all. Everyone else took shots at him, I haven't said a word.KapG wroteCOLONstill did throw him under the bus a little...
Also, I've made a thread like this in the past. See: http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9067 ... vu#p124539
It lead to this deal: http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9071 ... vu#p124649
This method can work in the right circumstances.

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Everyone seems to make valid points in this thread.
edit - valid not value
edit - valid not value

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I am on not on higher ground than anyone else in here but disliked how you went about this. You have to see how I arrived at the conclusion I did no? At least give me that it would be easy to take this thread that way. If you truly did not want to make ennzie look stupid you could have easily worded it differently to avoid calling him out. IE "I will give Grabo straight up to anyone that can land Abdelkader off of Ennzie". Accomplishes the same goal yet wouldn't make anyone question your intentions.SuperMario wroteCOLONWhy do you always post as if you're on some higher ground than everyone else whose motives you always question?shooker wroteCOLONmaybe abdelkader is ennzie's "guy you wont trade for some reason".
Not a big fan of posting offers in an attempt to make another gm look stupid. I'd personally take that deal in a second but each guy is entitled to trade and not trade who ever he wants. Maybe he just wont trade him and it doesn't matter what the offer is. I think that is fine.
I made this thread because I am confident someone will be able to work out a 3-way with Enzzie here to land Grabo. That is all.
The reason I "always" call out peoples motives, seems to only be you though, is that it is threads like this that are continually making gms lose interest in this league. No one wants to come on here and see a thread dedicated to how they should have accepted a deal. Hell, its threads like this that are making me lose interest lol.

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thats why i usually keep my negotiations to myself. I also try to not even mention names that I've been offered on players I am shopping when in negotiations.
Shooker does have a point. Same thing happened to Paul, who by the looks of it didn't wanna trade ennis for the deal he was offered and then after the backlash he saw on here now ends up adding more to the same original deal.
ugh.
Shooker does have a point. Same thing happened to Paul, who by the looks of it didn't wanna trade ennis for the deal he was offered and then after the backlash he saw on here now ends up adding more to the same original deal.
ugh.
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Why is it that you are so worried about how things are worded constantly? Maybe how I word things and how you take them just aren't compatible.shooker wroteCOLONI am on not on higher ground than anyone else in here but disliked how you went about this. You have to see how I arrived at the conclusion I did no? At least give me that it would be easy to take this thread that way. If you truly did not want to make ennzie look stupid you could have easily worded it differently to avoid calling him out. IE "I will give Grabo straight up to anyone that can land Abdelkader off of Ennzie". Accomplishes the same goal yet wouldn't make anyone question your intentions.SuperMario wroteCOLONWhy do you always post as if you're on some higher ground than everyone else whose motives you always question?shooker wroteCOLONmaybe abdelkader is ennzie's "guy you wont trade for some reason".
Not a big fan of posting offers in an attempt to make another gm look stupid. I'd personally take that deal in a second but each guy is entitled to trade and not trade who ever he wants. Maybe he just wont trade him and it doesn't matter what the offer is. I think that is fine.
I made this thread because I am confident someone will be able to work out a 3-way with Enzzie here to land Grabo. That is all.
The reason I "always" call out peoples motives, seems to only be you though, is that it is threads like this that are continually making gms lose interest in this league. No one wants to come on here and see a thread dedicated to how they should have accepted a deal. Hell, its threads like this that are making me lose interest lol.
As far as people quitting because of a thread being created, that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. This league has survived for so long because of committed GMs who all bring something to the table to manage all aspects of the league. The CC, tracking of draft picks, roster submissions, inputting info on CBS, standings etc etc.
One of the things that keeps this league constantly engaging is that people make trades. This thread could potentially lead to Enzzie receiving an offer he really likes. E.g. a player he likes more than Abdelkader for a player GM X likes not as much as Grabovski. And everyone walks away happy.
You seem to always take things negatively. You should stop that.

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Shiv, he has a point.
How you can't see that, I don't know?
How you can't see that, I don't know?
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What's his point? I should have worded things differently? I worded it how I did and I do not think it was remotely offensive. And I repeat:KapG wroteCOLONShiv, he has a point.
How you can't see that, I don't know?
This thread could potentially lead to Enzzie receiving an offer he really likes. E.g. a player he likes more than Abdelkader for a player GM X likes not as much as Grabovski. And everyone walks away happy.

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Wait i thought white guys were hard wtf ppl told me after certain trades i shud be kicked out of bbkl in the past and look im still here. Why u guys need each others friend to always back u up