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VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:22 pm
by MSP4LYFE
To Pittsburgh:

Mikko Koivu

To Vancouver:

Alexander Edler

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:24 pm
by Robin Hood
Done.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:27 pm
by bills09
Shiv rapes.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:32 pm
by MSP4LYFE
bills09 wroteCOLONShiv rapes.
Uninformed opinion is uninformed... At worst this is an even trade. More than likely however, I think I get the slight edge due to Edler's: age, cap hit, and peripheral dominance.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:33 pm
by Mike
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLONShiv rapes.
Uninformed opinion is uninformed... At worst this is an even trade. More than likely however, I think I get the slight edge due to Edler's: age, cap hit, and peripheral dominance.
C's are massively overrated. That said, I overrate them too.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:35 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Yup, edler is a warrior

Pretty fair imo

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:39 pm
by Nick
Shiv Rapes IMO. True #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:41 pm
by Robin Hood
I think Kareem and I both give ourselves a little bit of an edge on this one (usually the case in one for one swaps as it is a matter of preference).

Edler has only 1 more year on his contract after which he will never fetch an asset like Koivu IMO. But for this one year he is going to be money for a contending team - which is what Kareem is going to be.

Koivu is a top-tier C who might be 1.5-2 standard deviations ahead of the average (not sure on this) in terms of how much SHTOI he produces for a top top C with potential for 70+ points. But he is also 6.75M.

Love Edler though - I think him, Simmonds and Boyle have not been traded once since I acquired them last year, which is a feat for me lol

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:46 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Nick wroteCOLONTrue #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.
You will find that these two things are difficult to prove with facts.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:48 pm
by Robin Hood
Nick wroteCOLONShiv Rapes IMO. True #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.
Edler is easily a #1 in BBKL bro. In fact, I'd say he is a Top 5 fantasy d-man. I challenge you to name 5 d-men worth owning ahead of him for the upcoming season.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 8:53 pm
by MSP4LYFE
SuperMario wroteCOLONI think Kareem and I both give ourselves a little bit of an edge on this one (usually the case in one for one swaps as it is a matter of preference).

Edler has only 1 more year on his contract after which he will never fetch an asset like Koivu IMO. But for this one year he is going to be money for a contending team - which is what Kareem is going to be.

Koivu is a top-tier C who might be 1.5-2 standard deviations ahead of the average (not sure on this) in terms of how much SHTOI he produces for a top top C with potential for 70+ points. But he is also 6.75M.

Love Edler though - I think him, Simmonds and Boyle have not been traded once since I acquired them last year, which is a feat for me lol
Pretty much.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:11 pm
by MSP4LYFE
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Nick wroteCOLONShiv Rapes IMO. True #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.
Edler is easily a #1 in BBKL bro. In fact, I'd say he is a Top 5 fantasy d-man. I challenge you to name 5 d-men worth owning ahead of him for the upcoming season.
I just don't understand how Mikko Koivu is a true #1 center despite never posting ppg numbers in any professional league (including the AHL and SM Liiga). Nor do I understand how Alexander Edler is a #2 defenceman despite leading the back to back Western Conference Champions in TOI/G the last two seasons.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:26 pm
by The BBKL Insider
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Nick wroteCOLONShiv Rapes IMO. True #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.
Edler is easily a #1 in BBKL bro. In fact, I'd say he is a Top 5 fantasy d-man. I challenge you to name 5 d-men worth owning ahead of him for the upcoming season.
1. Dion
2. Gunnar
3. Gardiner
4. Liles
5. Komisarek


boom, 5 better dmen

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:28 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON1. Dion
2. Gunnar
3. Gardiner
4. Liles
5. Komisarek


boom, 5 better dmen
I'll bet he didn't see that coming.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:31 pm
by Robin Hood
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON1. Dion
2. Gunnar
3. Gardiner
4. Liles
5. Komisarek


boom, 5 better dmen
I'll bet he didn't see that coming.
LOL I did not. Funny as fuck though haha

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:16 pm
by hong57
i like this for shiv though i would say it's pretty even

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:08 pm
by bma
I can name at least 10 centers that I would have rather than M.Koivu yet I can't even name 4 defenceman I would rather have than Edler. Edler's stats are VERY similar to Weber's and there is no way in the world M.Koivu would be able to fetch anything near Shea Weber..I like it for Kareem.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:37 pm
by MSP4LYFE
bcool wroteCOLONI can name at least 10 centers that I would have rather than M.Koivu yet I can't even name 4 defenceman I would rather have than Edler. Edler's stats are VERY similar to Weber's and there is no way in the world M.Koivu would be able to fetch anything near Shea Weber..I like it for Kareem.
I'm genuinely shocked that you are the only one who likes this trade for me, I think I won this deal myself.

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:15 am
by Arian The Insider
koivu has to be the most overrated player in bbkl. Fair deal here imo

Re: VAN/PIT

PostedCOLON Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:33 am
by Lee
Arian wroteCOLONkoivu has to be the most overrated player in bbkl. Fair deal here imo
+1