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Uninformed opinion is uninformed... At worst this is an even trade. More than likely however, I think I get the slight edge due to Edler's: age, cap hit, and peripheral dominance.bills09 wroteCOLONShiv rapes.
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C's are massively overrated. That said, I overrate them too.MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONUninformed opinion is uninformed... At worst this is an even trade. More than likely however, I think I get the slight edge due to Edler's: age, cap hit, and peripheral dominance.bills09 wroteCOLONShiv rapes.
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Shiv Rapes IMO. True #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.
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I think Kareem and I both give ourselves a little bit of an edge on this one (usually the case in one for one swaps as it is a matter of preference).
Edler has only 1 more year on his contract after which he will never fetch an asset like Koivu IMO. But for this one year he is going to be money for a contending team - which is what Kareem is going to be.
Koivu is a top-tier C who might be 1.5-2 standard deviations ahead of the average (not sure on this) in terms of how much SHTOI he produces for a top top C with potential for 70+ points. But he is also 6.75M.
Love Edler though - I think him, Simmonds and Boyle have not been traded once since I acquired them last year, which is a feat for me lol
Edler has only 1 more year on his contract after which he will never fetch an asset like Koivu IMO. But for this one year he is going to be money for a contending team - which is what Kareem is going to be.
Koivu is a top-tier C who might be 1.5-2 standard deviations ahead of the average (not sure on this) in terms of how much SHTOI he produces for a top top C with potential for 70+ points. But he is also 6.75M.
Love Edler though - I think him, Simmonds and Boyle have not been traded once since I acquired them last year, which is a feat for me lol

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You will find that these two things are difficult to prove with facts.Nick wroteCOLONTrue #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.
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Edler is easily a #1 in BBKL bro. In fact, I'd say he is a Top 5 fantasy d-man. I challenge you to name 5 d-men worth owning ahead of him for the upcoming season.Nick wroteCOLONShiv Rapes IMO. True #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.

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Pretty much.SuperMario wroteCOLONI think Kareem and I both give ourselves a little bit of an edge on this one (usually the case in one for one swaps as it is a matter of preference).
Edler has only 1 more year on his contract after which he will never fetch an asset like Koivu IMO. But for this one year he is going to be money for a contending team - which is what Kareem is going to be.
Koivu is a top-tier C who might be 1.5-2 standard deviations ahead of the average (not sure on this) in terms of how much SHTOI he produces for a top top C with potential for 70+ points. But he is also 6.75M.
Love Edler though - I think him, Simmonds and Boyle have not been traded once since I acquired them last year, which is a feat for me lol
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I just don't understand how Mikko Koivu is a true #1 center despite never posting ppg numbers in any professional league (including the AHL and SM Liiga). Nor do I understand how Alexander Edler is a #2 defenceman despite leading the back to back Western Conference Champions in TOI/G the last two seasons.SuperMario wroteCOLONEdler is easily a #1 in BBKL bro. In fact, I'd say he is a Top 5 fantasy d-man. I challenge you to name 5 d-men worth owning ahead of him for the upcoming season.Nick wroteCOLONShiv Rapes IMO. True #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.
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1. DionSuperMario wroteCOLONEdler is easily a #1 in BBKL bro. In fact, I'd say he is a Top 5 fantasy d-man. I challenge you to name 5 d-men worth owning ahead of him for the upcoming season.Nick wroteCOLONShiv Rapes IMO. True #1 C with a ton of nice wingers to choose from, for a #2 Dman.
2. Gunnar
3. Gardiner
4. Liles
5. Komisarek
boom, 5 better dmen

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I'll bet he didn't see that coming.Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON1. Dion
2. Gunnar
3. Gardiner
4. Liles
5. Komisarek
boom, 5 better dmen
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LOL I did not. Funny as fuck though hahaMSP4LYFE wroteCOLONI'll bet he didn't see that coming.Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON1. Dion
2. Gunnar
3. Gardiner
4. Liles
5. Komisarek
boom, 5 better dmen

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I can name at least 10 centers that I would have rather than M.Koivu yet I can't even name 4 defenceman I would rather have than Edler. Edler's stats are VERY similar to Weber's and there is no way in the world M.Koivu would be able to fetch anything near Shea Weber..I like it for Kareem.
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I'm genuinely shocked that you are the only one who likes this trade for me, I think I won this deal myself.bcool wroteCOLONI can name at least 10 centers that I would have rather than M.Koivu yet I can't even name 4 defenceman I would rather have than Edler. Edler's stats are VERY similar to Weber's and there is no way in the world M.Koivu would be able to fetch anything near Shea Weber..I like it for Kareem.
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koivu has to be the most overrated player in bbkl. Fair deal here imo
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+1Arian wroteCOLONkoivu has to be the most overrated player in bbkl. Fair deal here imo