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Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:45 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Peter wroteCOLONKane > Duchene
Bieksa > Bouwmeester

(Both these comparisons are rather close nonetheless, but still edge to Luke's side)

DSP, makes up difference in rather close win for Luke

fair deal
Duchene outproduced Kane a season ago, last year was horrible, but likely a blip on the radar.

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:47 pm
by MSP4LYFE
MadarameIkakku83 wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
shooker wroteCOLONI like this one for the peg. I think duchene will bounce back in a big way but I just think patty kane is better. Hence my nod in luke's favour.
Duchene is capable of the same points + fow, but the big difference is that Duchene is set to earn 3.8M in the next two years vs 6+ for Patrick Kane. That cannot be understated, and in truth was my primary motivation for making this deal.
duchene is capable of the points, but I'm not sure he's matured enough as a more complete centre at this point, I see him as being one of those guys that starts to figure it out in his mid 20's. Secondly there is the question of whether sacco knows how to get him to be that player, because he was being somewhat mis-cast last year

on the topic of dsp he is really young(just turned 20) and nowhere near his full value and if there is a season somewhere around 50 games it will be much harder for him to build on last year's success, I think he's at minimum a year away from making significant contributions
Sacco is a fucking idiot, he played Duchene on and off at center last season after a 67 point campaign at 20, and reduced his TOI by close to two minutes.

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:15 pm
by Chuck Norris
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Chuck Norris wroteCOLONSo Kareem let me get this straight: you make this deal to get a comparable player with a much nicer cap hit; but then assume Jay-Bo's albatross contract? Don;t get me wrong I love Jay-Bo and all he does for a hockey club but in terms of his BBKL contributions he is insanely overpaid for his output.
You're a smart guy, I think you can reasonably assume what I will do next with Jaybo.
I guess its because I'm a former Jay-Bo owner that I'm questioning as he is a very hard sell solely absed on his contract.

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:40 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Kareem, give me duchene, that black kid, and someone else for koivu

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:41 pm
by Lee
Steve, that's just rude.

Gary Coleman is dead.

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:42 pm
by kimmer
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Chuck Norris wroteCOLONSo Kareem let me get this straight: you make this deal to get a comparable player with a much nicer cap hit; but then assume Jay-Bo's albatross contract? Don;t get me wrong I love Jay-Bo and all he does for a hockey club but in terms of his BBKL contributions he is insanely overpaid for his output.
You're a smart guy, I think you can reasonably assume what I will do next with Jaybo.
I'll take him

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:15 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONKareem, give me duchene, that black kid, and someone else for koivu
LOL @ "that black kid."

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:16 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Chuck Norris wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Chuck Norris wroteCOLONSo Kareem let me get this straight: you make this deal to get a comparable player with a much nicer cap hit; but then assume Jay-Bo's albatross contract? Don;t get me wrong I love Jay-Bo and all he does for a hockey club but in terms of his BBKL contributions he is insanely overpaid for his output.
You're a smart guy, I think you can reasonably assume what I will do next with Jaybo.
I guess its because I'm a former Jay-Bo owner that I'm questioning as he is a very hard sell solely absed on his contract.
He's not a hard sell at all, IMO. I've owned and traded him on multiple occasions, that said I think it is wise to hang onto him for a bit before moving him, especially if there is anything to the Detroit rumors.

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:25 pm
by Nick
trade him to me?

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:16 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Nick wroteCOLONtrade him to me?
Make an offer, preferably one that doesn't suck.

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:30 am
by Nick
Meh, not one of the few guys who are running away with winning the league - therefor all my offers suck, where is the fun in giving you what you want, all of the time? ....but, Who are we talking about, Duchene or JayBo?

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Sat Sep 15, 2012 2:08 am
by MSP4LYFE
Nick wroteCOLONMeh, not one of the few guys who are running away with winning the league - therefor all my offers suck, where is the fun in giving you what you want, all of the time? ....but, Who are we talking about, Duchene or JayBo?
I was talking about Jaybo, Duchene is near untouchable, it would take someone you have no intentions of moving to acquire him. (same thing I told Steve)

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:03 pm
by Nick
Jaybo in real life, is a far far more skilled player then Kevin, but he just isn't mean. He does way more in a game, but shows up on the stats sheet WAY less (aside from straight toi measurements). It's one of those weird situations because IMO Jay is a sick player, but damn if he doesn't leave ya wanting mroe because he's SOOOO good, he should accomplish more.

Duchene needs a bounce back for sure, but heavy expectations weigh on a young kid - wouldn't shock me if he took a year or two to refind his game.

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:21 pm
by kimmer
I actually find myself lookin at JayBo's fluid skating, and then directly think of figure skating.

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:42 pm
by The BBKL Insider
i've seen Jaybo live a few times, he is easily the most fluent skater i've ever seen on ice. My god, during the Worlds in Halifax 2007 he could skate backwards faster than Selanne could skate forward -- these are true facts

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:47 pm
by MSP4LYFE
JBO is easily the best defensive d in the game, IMO. His advanced metrics are awesome too.

Re: VAN/WPG

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:03 pm
by The BBKL Insider
i love jaybo, easily one of my Favourite players.....if his salary wasn't so high he's certainly a player i wish the leafs had