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Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:50 pm
by tyler
Another trade where 1st round picks get over valued.

Peter you wanted 2 or 3 roster players from me and you don't even get one back here.

Mike you crushed this. 2nd line Dman for nothing off your roster and still holding a abundance of picks. Table tilted here majorly.

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:00 pm
by Peter
bergey wroteCOLONAnother trade where 1st round picks get over valued.

Peter you wanted 2 or 3 roster players from me and you don't even get one back here.

Mike you crushed this. 2nd line Dman for nothing off your roster and still holding a abundance of picks. Table tilted here majorly.
I'd rather have a top 5 pick than jannik hansen, each to his own I guess though

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:21 pm
by tyler
Vlasic, Hansen and a prospect - not just hansen :P

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:22 pm
by The BBKL Insider
mike brown for hansen

you heard it here first

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:30 pm
by Peter
bergey wroteCOLONVlasic, Hansen and a prospect - not just hansen :P
Haha well idk one could argue vlasic and nikitin have similar statistical upside for next season, vlasic is probably a tad better given his history, but it's close nonetheless, and I take the pick over hansen and the insignificant prospect, so I see my value scaling as pretty consistent, as a rebuilding team the upside of the pick is worth downsizing to another solid dman. And it wasn't like I rejected our deal I said yeah then you went mia, no worries though I'm happy to stay rebulding! Its going to be a long road fixing my team up but by staying young and making decent flips hopefully in a coupple years it'll workout. After much shopping I realized this was the kind of deal I wanted to make, and I feel like the value is there and the upsides in my hand :) oh yeah anyone interested in NIkitin pm me

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:18 pm
by tyler
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONmike brown for hansen

you heard it here first
post it

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:20 pm
by The BBKL Insider
bergey wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONmike brown for hansen

you heard it here first
post it
already did, you confirm

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:37 pm
by kimmer
bergey wroteCOLONAnother trade where 1st round picks get over valued.

Peter you wanted 2 or 3 roster players from me and you don't even get one back here.

Mike you crushed this. 2nd line Dman for nothing off your roster and still holding a abundance of picks. Table tilted here majorly.
Smart man over here ;)

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:24 pm
by Robin Hood
This trade is a joke.

Bergey offered Vlassic + Hansen +
Pete wanted Edler from me for McDonagh + something small (at which I scoffed)
Other people were asked for 2-3 roster players.

Then he goes and trades him for a good prospect + a 1st.

Even if CAR's pick is top 5, TOR crushes this trade. a full year of an h2h stud like mcdonagh >>>> nikitin + a 1st, let alone the trade value of mcdonagh mid-season where Pete would have been able to get way more.

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:50 pm
by Chuck Norris
Sorry Pete but Mike pulled the wool over your eyes on this one...

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:54 pm
by Robin Hood
Chuck Norris wroteCOLONSorry Pete but Mike pulled the wool over your eyes on this one...
Mike didn't do anything. Pete knew all the offers he had on the table and he chose this one. Pure fanboy trade.

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:57 pm
by Peter
Lol @ bbkl logic, top 5 pick is equal or better than a roster player, does anyone realize that is where most elite talent comes from? Nikitin is a very solid roster player, 32 pts in 54 gaames as a BJ on D, top 5 pick which could be a young top 6 C if anyof you have checked the talent of next years draft! You are all bitter, the trade is easy for mike but its also easy for me, most of you offered me shit. No need to defend myself, but I am anyways, the fact is that 2 way centermen are the most valuable thing on bbkl, and next years draft is full of them, no flawed logic, with two top 5 picks I'm golden, it flips well for me with other trades.

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:01 pm
by Peter
I offered this to mike ps, and the value of that pick alone could be equal to mcdonagh. This draft is far superior to last years in the top 5ish area and I'm not just saying that. It'll take a year but I'm 100 ppercent sure this trade will pay off.

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:03 pm
by Peter
Honestly I like this deal more than vlasic and hansen, and bergey went mia on that deal. Deal fits perfect to my team plan

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:06 pm
by tyler
went MIA cause i landed Kronwall for less than what you were asking.

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:07 pm
by hong57
although i like Mike's side by a mile.. but i like pete that he has a plan.. so it's all gd

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:11 pm
by Peter
Honestly I think I just talked McDonagh up so much that everyone is bitter to see him go. I traded Morgan Rielly and a first for Mcdonagh and landed what I think will be a better prospect and Nikitin who is much more valuable than the semi-latish first i traded. I honestly think I did quite well here.

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:15 pm
by Peter
bergey wroteCOLONwent MIA cause i landed Kronwall for less than what you were asking.
which is fine. I just don't see how anyone could think I did bad here. Obviously its an easy deal for MIke as he instantly becomes lethal well just using one of his many firsts, but I traded what was 4th overall last year for Couturier, if this deal were Couturier + Nikitin everyone would think I raped, I just don't see the logic from the other side, except for the fact that the draft is a long way away, come draft time that pick will be worth gold, it just works like that.

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:17 pm
by Peter
lol I must be bored if I'm putting this much into defending a trade, I just hate the contender logic on bbkl, I'm not a contender, it doesnt apply

Re: Trade: TOR/DAL (goodbye mcdonagh)

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:21 pm
by Nick
It's bad timing for firsts is the only thing I'm hearing. If Pete hold onto this first, then he's right, this is a value increase.