Jack Johnson

[Mike]

I like JJ but if the price is similar to what Shiv offered me today count me out...

Del Zotto+Shane Doan for Jack Johnson..no thanks sir.

McD + Bernier for me

[KapG]

You can't be serious Mike....


I understand the concept of starting the asking price high but that is a lot...

[Shep]

You're surprised?

[Nick]

I did not think Shiv's price for me was outlandish, simply more than I was willing to pay.


MDZ + Doan doesn't look complaint worthy to me.

[Robin Hood]

I did not think Shiv's price for me was outlandish, simply more than I was willing to pay.


MDZ + Doan doesn't look complaint worthy to me.

I was waiting for someone to cut me some slack. Thanks Nick.

Fuck off BBKL.

[Robin Hood]

You can't be serious Mike....


I understand the concept of starting the asking price high but that is a lot...

Get off your fucking high horse - especially since you offered me Brad Stuart + Riley Sheahan + 1st in 2015.

[Robin Hood]

I like JJ but if the price is similar to what Shiv offered me today count me out...

Del Zotto+Shane Doan for Jack Johnson..no thanks sir.

McD + Bernier for me

The only reason you made a trade after 3 months is because I was okay with overpaying you Tinordi for Kelly.

Go back to block bumping for another 3 months with your ridiculous prices before you come in here pretending like you are reasonable.

[Robin Hood]

I like JJ but if the price is similar to what Shiv offered me today count me out...

Del Zotto+Shane Doan for Jack Johnson..no thanks sir.

Doan is 38 and 5.3M. JJ > MDZ. Maybe you don't think Doan is a fair add to Mdz. But this conversation could have happened with an easy "I think Doan is too much but I'd be willing to add someone else" instead of coming in here and bitching. I am always willing to swap players in and out in talks and you know that.

[Robin Hood]

You're surprised?

This is what you paid for Subban. JJ may not be as good as Subban but it is not a MAJOR gap. He is a very very good H2H d-man. Next year when Subban gets 7M for his cap hit, JJ in terms of h2h value at 4.357M may actually be comparable/even better. He does everything.

TO ST. LOUIS:
P.K. Subban
2014 1st Rounder (PIT)

TO N.Y. RANGERS:
Luke Schenn
Emerson Etem
J.T. Miller
2013 2nd Rounder (NYR)
2014 1st Rounder (VAN)

[The BBKL Insider]

it's hard to compare the Subban deal to anything now

when KapG traded subban neither Etem or Miller had established anything in the NHL, let alone the AHL.

Etem was coming off a horrible year and another slow start in the AHL. Who knew he'd take off like he did.

[kimmer]

lol shiv mad

[KapG]

You can't be serious Mike....


I understand the concept of starting the asking price high but that is a lot...

Get off your fucking high horse - especially since you offered me Brad Stuart + Riley Sheahan + 1st in 2015.

Gold coming from you shiv, the one who offers the worst deals of anyone, anywhere, lol.

[KapG]

You're surprised?

This is what you paid for Subban. JJ may not be as good as Subban but it is not a MAJOR gap. He is a very very good H2H d-man. Next year when Subban gets 7M for his cap hit, JJ in terms of h2h value at 4.357M may actually be comparable/even better. He does everything.

TO ST. LOUIS:
P.K. Subban
2014 1st Rounder (PIT)

TO N.Y. RANGERS:
Luke Schenn
Emerson Etem
J.T. Miller
2013 2nd Rounder (NYR)
2014 1st Rounder (VAN)

And like I said in my response to you there, I had NO INTEREST IN MOVING SUBBAN. Shep essentially made me a deal that I couldn't turn down. You on the other hand are actually trying to move Jack Johnson.

[kimmer]

my offer so far the best

[Robin Hood]

You're surprised?

This is what you paid for Subban. JJ may not be as good as Subban but it is not a MAJOR gap. He is a very very good H2H d-man. Next year when Subban gets 7M for his cap hit, JJ in terms of h2h value at 4.357M may actually be comparable/even better. He does everything.

TO ST. LOUIS:
P.K. Subban
2014 1st Rounder (PIT)

TO N.Y. RANGERS:
Luke Schenn
Emerson Etem
J.T. Miller
2013 2nd Rounder (NYR)
2014 1st Rounder (VAN)

And like I said in my response to you there, I had NO INTEREST IN MOVING SUBBAN. Shep essentially made me a deal that I couldn't turn down. You on the other hand are actually trying to move Jack Johnson.

Stfu please with your double standards. Don't come in here and be hypocritical when you made one of the worst offers on JJ in the league. I'm fine with bad offers and don't go complaining about them. But you coming in here and talking about how my offer was bad is ridiculous.

Also - I'm happy kovalchuk went to the KHL. Your team sucks.

[KapG]

You're surprised?

This is what you paid for Subban. JJ may not be as good as Subban but it is not a MAJOR gap. He is a very very good H2H d-man. Next year when Subban gets 7M for his cap hit, JJ in terms of h2h value at 4.357M may actually be comparable/even better. He does everything.

TO ST. LOUIS:
P.K. Subban
2014 1st Rounder (PIT)

TO N.Y. RANGERS:
Luke Schenn
Emerson Etem
J.T. Miller
2013 2nd Rounder (NYR)
2014 1st Rounder (VAN)

And like I said in my response to you there, I had NO INTEREST IN MOVING SUBBAN. Shep essentially made me a deal that I couldn't turn down. You on the other hand are actually trying to move Jack Johnson.

Stfu please with your double standards. Don't come in here and be hypocritical when you made one of the worst offers on JJ in the league. I'm fine with bad offers and don't go complaining about them. But you coming in here and talking about how my offer was bad is ridiculous.

Also - I'm happy kovalchuk went to the KHL. Your team sucks.

What are you, 5 years old?

And yah, your offers are terrible about 80% of the time so why should I waste my time sending you any offers that are reasonable?

[Robin Hood]

it's hard to compare the Subban deal to anything now

when KapG traded subban neither Etem or Miller had established anything in the NHL, let alone the AHL.

Etem was coming off a horrible year and another slow start in the AHL. Who knew he'd take off like he did.

Dude - Etem was coming off an AMAZING season in the WHL and was one of the hottest prospects in BBKL. And Miller had a LOT of hype as well.

To top it all off:

Subban did not have a contract at the time
Kareem's VAN pick looked like a sure thing for Top 10.
My pick in 2014 cancels the 2nd in 2013.

That makes it Schenn + Miller + Etem + Top 10 Pick for Subban.

Say what you will, I am not even asking that much for JJ. I am simply saying that people coming in here and complaining is just ridiculous.

Also, I make the most trades in BBKL not because I lowball all the time, but because I am the most accommodating when GMs ask to swap players in and out.

Here you have:

KapG - who will never make a trade unless he has a boner for the player he is receiving.
Mike - who constantly asks for ridiculousness for his players yet bumps his block 10 times a day.
Shep - who has turned into a troll for the last year and never contributes any positive conversation to the league.
Billy - Who I've made endless trades with and have a great trade relationship with (I think anyways)

All calling me out for no fucking reason.

JJ is a young superstar #1 d-man at 4.357 for many years. He will be a sought after asset year after year.

I may have "put him on the block" but for me to sell him for anything less than what he is dumb. Also - can you imagine if KapG/Mike/Shep owned JJ? What would the price be then.

[Robin Hood]

You're surprised?

This is what you paid for Subban. JJ may not be as good as Subban but it is not a MAJOR gap. He is a very very good H2H d-man. Next year when Subban gets 7M for his cap hit, JJ in terms of h2h value at 4.357M may actually be comparable/even better. He does everything.

TO ST. LOUIS:
P.K. Subban
2014 1st Rounder (PIT)

TO N.Y. RANGERS:
Luke Schenn
Emerson Etem
J.T. Miller
2013 2nd Rounder (NYR)
2014 1st Rounder (VAN)

And like I said in my response to you there, I had NO INTEREST IN MOVING SUBBAN. Shep essentially made me a deal that I couldn't turn down. You on the other hand are actually trying to move Jack Johnson.

Stfu please with your double standards. Don't come in here and be hypocritical when you made one of the worst offers on JJ in the league. I'm fine with bad offers and don't go complaining about them. But you coming in here and talking about how my offer was bad is ridiculous.

Also - I'm happy kovalchuk went to the KHL. Your team sucks.

What are you, 5 years old?

And yah, your offers are terrible about 80% of the time so why should I waste my time sending you any offers that are reasonable?

Not 5 - just wanted to make you cry again.

[The BBKL Insider]

it's hard to compare the Subban deal to anything now

when KapG traded subban neither Etem or Miller had established anything in the NHL, let alone the AHL.

Etem was coming off a horrible year and another slow start in the AHL. Who knew he'd take off like he did.

Dude - Etem was coming off an AMAZING season in the WHL and was one of the hottest prospects in BBKL. And Miller had a LOT of hype as well.

To top it all off:

Subban did not have a contract at the time
Kareem's VAN pick looked like a sure thing for Top 10.
My pick in 2014 cancels the 2nd in 2013.

That makes it Schenn + Miller + Etem + Top 10 Pick for Subban.

Say what you will, I am not even asking that much for JJ. I am simply saying that people coming in here and complaining is just ridiculous.

Also, I make the most trades in BBKL not because I lowball all the time, but because I am the most accommodating when GMs ask to swap players in and out.

Here you have:

KapG - who will never make a trade unless he has a boner for the player he is receiving.
Mike - who constantly asks for ridiculousness for his players yet bumps his block 10 times a day.
Shep - who has turned into a troll for the last year and never contributes any positive conversation to the league.
Billy - Who I've made endless trades with and have a great trade relationship with (I think anyways)

All calling me out for no fucking reason.

JJ is a young superstar #1 d-man at 4.357 for many years. He will be a sought after asset year after year.

I may have "put him on the block" but for me to sell him for anything less than what he is dumb. Also - can you imagine if KapG/Mike/Shep owned JJ? What would the price be then.

you're comparing JJ to Subban first off

As the owner of both of those guys i'd take Subban far over JJ.

i'm not trying pick a fight, i just dont think subban and JJ are comparible...i think if you look at comparible (bbkl value wise) i'd compare Schenn and not Subban.

[kimmer]

take my offer