PIT/MTL

[Robin Hood]

To Montreal

Clarke MacArthur
Tyler Myers

To Pittsburgh

Joe Thornton
2013 2nd Rounder (DET)

[Chuck Norris]

That makes 9 NHL Dmen...if you need one come and find me. Confirmed...

[bills09]

solid deal Gentleman.

[Nick]

why trade for a 9th dman with a #1 C ?

Initial feel to me is that Shiv smashed this one out of the park- at least on my value of do-it-all C's.

[bills09]

he only loses fow in this deal though Sir Nicholas.
Statswise its a pretty decent deal.

[The BBKL Insider]

no way shiv wins this deal

no one wins this deal IMO

even steven IMO

[Tony]

Well, you know who to go to first when you want to move Thornton Shiv ...

[Shep]

Wow I wish I was in on this..

[Robin Hood]

Wow I wish I was in on this..

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[The BBKL Insider]

Wow I wish I was in on this..

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Shep's been after that Det 2nd for some time now

[Nick]

he only loses fow in this deal though Sir Nicholas.
Statswise its a pretty decent deal.

1 player vs 2 pretty easy for that to be the case, let alone a slow year for a stud #1 C.

59a vs a combined 38
77pts vs 66
+17 vs +8 (3/5) -- no value TBH.
24stpts vs 16
557 fow vs 0
and 86shtoi vs 116 but that 86 forward shtoi

I dunno how you say only FOW when it's clearly more then that, and in a 1 player vs 2 comparison, on a fairly slow year for that individual as well.

Hits from forwards are worth a lot, not that MacArthur hits a lot, PIM and BS in reasonable totals are the cheapest stats in the BBKL

which leaves for a high SOG dman plus combined goal & GWG lead of any real value...

I'll stand by my comments

Shiv smashed this one out of the park

Statswise its a pretty decent deal.

You and I need to make some statwise deals that are pretty decent then

[Chuck Norris]

he only loses fow in this deal though Sir Nicholas.
Statswise its a pretty decent deal.

1 player vs 2 pretty easy for that to be the case, let alone a slow year for a stud #1 C.

59a vs a combined 38
77pts vs 66
+17 vs +8 (3/5) -- no value TBH.
24stpts vs 16
557 fow vs 0
and 86shtoi vs 116 but that 86 forward shtoi

I dunno how you say only FOW when it's clearly more then that, and in a 1 player vs 2 comparison, on a fairly slow year for that individual as well.

Hits from forwards are worth a lot, not that MacArthur hits a lot, PIM and BS in reasonable totals are the cheapest stats in the BBKL

which leaves for a high SOG dman plus combined goal & GWG lead of any real value...

I'll stand by my comments

Shiv smashed this one out of the park

Statswise its a pretty decent deal.

You and I need to make some statwise deals that are pretty decent then

You also forget Myers had a down year too and only played 55 games. Add in an additional 27 games of stats and they skew in my favor. Not to mention the fact that Joe's periphs have dropped 2 consecutive years running, is significantly older and a much bigger cap hit. Not to mention Myers still has some upside yet to go while Jumbo is on his way down...

[Nick]

legit that you like it not crying foul here on anything - just my perspective.

[kimmer]

I want Thornton....

[Peter]

Thornton could easily be a number 2 C for the sharks in 2-3 years.

[Nick]

Couture taking his spot? Gotta watch a game before predicting one of the most dominant, consistent point producing centers in the last decade.

Joe has made everyone around him better from day 1, that includes couture who benefits greatly from playing with him. Obviously I'm a Thornton fan - but its justified because he's awesome.

[Robin Hood]

Thornton could easily be a number 2 C for the sharks in 2-3 years.

LOL...

[Shep]

Thornton could easily be a number 2 C for the sharks in 2-3 years.

LOL...

He'll be 36, I don't think it's necessarily impossible that he is a 2nd line centre by then, if Couture continues to progress as he has.

[Robin Hood]

Thornton could easily be a number 2 C for the sharks in 2-3 years.

LOL...

He'll be 36, I don't think it's necessarily impossible that he is a 2nd line centre by then, if Couture continues to progress as he has.

Thornton is cut from the Sundin, Sakic etc. cloth. He will be a PPG C till he retires. Which line he plays on will not matter (although IMO he stays a line 1 C for his entire career).

[Shep]

Thornton could easily be a number 2 C for the sharks in 2-3 years.

LOL...

He'll be 36, I don't think it's necessarily impossible that he is a 2nd line centre by then, if Couture continues to progress as he has.

Thornton is cut from the Sundin, Sakic etc. cloth. He will be a PPG C till he retires. Which line he plays on will not matter (although IMO he stays a line 1 C for his entire career).

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying it's not impossible. He's been lucky enough to stay extremely healthy so far.