Buds Board Keepers League

Brian Burke often speaks about a successful AHL group acting as a catalyst for the big club. So I took a look at the Ducks AHL affiliate prior to their eventual Cup winning team in 07, and suffice it to the say the team was stacked with future NHL players, more than I think most people realize. That year, the Pirates featured:

Ryan Getzlaf
Corey Perry
Ryan Shannon
P.A. Parenteau
Zenon Konopka
Drew Miller
Shane O'Brien
Dustin Penner
Kent Huskins
Curtis Glencross
Aaron Rome
Ladislav Smid
Tim Brent
Chris Kunitz
Tim Stapleton
Bobby Ryan
Trevor Gillies

Granted not all of these players stayed down in the AHL for the whole season, but all of them (save for Gillies, Kunitz and Miller) played a large role in the Pirates Calder Cup run. To add on to that, if the above Pirates team isn't the greatest AHL roster of all time, I can't even fathom what is...

For reference,

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leag ... 22006.html

That is a pretty stacked team! Amazing how many of those players are no longer with the organization.

As a counter point, I'd like to offer up the roster of the Binghamton Senators from the same year, i.e. the year before the Sens lost to the Ducks in the finals, listed in order of scoring.

Denis Hamel
Steve Martins
Jeff Heerema
Charlie Stephens
Filip Novak
Brandon Bochenski
Grant Poultny
Danny Bois
Gregg Johnson
Tomas Malec
Lance Ward
Cory Pecker
Jan Platil
Joe Cullen
Patrick Eaves
Greg Watson
Brennan Evans
Bobby Robins
Brett Clouthier
Neil Komadowski
Brad Norton
Neil Petruic
etc etc.....

So it is quite evident that AHL rosters have no relation to NHL success!


.......This was a joke post too before I have people jumping down my throat, but it does illustrate why John Muckler should not be running the draft for an NHL franchise.

Haha Cory Pecker.

Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONAs a counter point, I'd like to offer up the roster of the Binghamton Senators from the same year, i.e. the year before the Sens lost to the Ducks in the finals, listed in order of scoring.

Denis Hamel
Steve Martins
Jeff Heerema
Charlie Stephens
Filip Novak
Brandon Bochenski
Grant Poultny
Danny Bois
Gregg Johnson
Tomas Malec
Lance Ward
Cory Pecker
Jan Platil
Joe Cullen
Patrick Eaves
Greg Watson
Brennan Evans
Bobby Robins
Brett Clouthier
Neil Komadowski
Brad Norton
Neil Petruic
etc etc.....

So it is quite evident that AHL rosters have no relation to NHL success!


.......This was a joke post too before I have people jumping down my throat, but it does illustrate why John Muckler should not be running the draft for an NHL franchise.

i only know patrick eaves out of that group... LOL

hong57 wroteCOLON

Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONAs a counter point, I'd like to offer up the roster of the Binghamton Senators from the same year, i.e. the year before the Sens lost to the Ducks in the finals, listed in order of scoring.

Denis Hamel
Steve Martins
Jeff Heerema
Charlie Stephens
Filip Novak
Brandon Bochenski
Grant Poultny
Danny Bois
Gregg Johnson
Tomas Malec
Lance Ward
Cory Pecker
Jan Platil
Joe Cullen
Patrick Eaves
Greg Watson
Brennan Evans
Bobby Robins
Brett Clouthier
Neil Komadowski
Brad Norton
Neil Petruic
etc etc.....

So it is quite evident that AHL rosters have no relation to NHL success!


.......This was a joke post too before I have people jumping down my throat, but it does illustrate why John Muckler should not be running the draft for an NHL franchise.

i only know patrick eaves out of that group... LOL

You don't know Brandon Bochenski?

Shep wroteCOLON

hong57 wroteCOLON

Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONAs a counter point, I'd like to offer up the roster of the Binghamton Senators from the same year, i.e. the year before the Sens lost to the Ducks in the finals, listed in order of scoring.

Denis Hamel
Steve Martins
Jeff Heerema
Charlie Stephens
Filip Novak
Brandon Bochenski
Grant Poultny
Danny Bois
Gregg Johnson
Tomas Malec
Lance Ward
Cory Pecker
Jan Platil
Joe Cullen
Patrick Eaves
Greg Watson
Brennan Evans
Bobby Robins
Brett Clouthier
Neil Komadowski
Brad Norton
Neil Petruic
etc etc.....

So it is quite evident that AHL rosters have no relation to NHL success!


.......This was a joke post too before I have people jumping down my throat, but it does illustrate why John Muckler should not be running the draft for an NHL franchise.

i only know patrick eaves out of that group... LOL

You don't know Brandon Bochenski?

i honestly don't know him hahaha

Well Just reference Kris Versteeg for Brandon Bochenski. What a freaking brutal trade....

Lee wroteCOLONHaha Cory Pecker.

good ... I wasn't the only one

My immaturity knows no bounds.

The Sens AHL build year, was the season prior josh. If you checked it I believe you'd find another impressive list of NHLers

Not sure what Lee has to do with it, but 04-05 was the lockout so yes there were many NHLers on the baby sens that year.

Sensfanjosh wroteCOLON 04-05 was the lockout so yes there were many NHLers on the baby sens that year.

Coincided with a big development year with their organization. Big group of prospects close to making the jump developing together -the importance of a strong AHL base.

Meh the foundation was there, if the lockout didn't happen when it did that Sens team would have been scary good IMO. Solid goaltending (Hasek) having Phillips, Redden, and Chara as well as Havlat, Hossa, Alfie and Spezza would have been fun to watch, for me anyways haha.

I'm not sure what your point is Josh, the AHL team you posted did not have a Calder Cup run, they didn't even make the playoffs... The Binghampton Senators a year ago won the Calder Cup, and many people within the organization credit it for their success a year later. The Calder Cup provides an opportunity for young players to play key minutes in big games against men, it is a significant development tool for young prospects.

Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONMeh the foundation was there, if the lockout didn't happen when it did that Sens team would have been scary good IMO. Solid goaltending (Hasek) having Phillips, Redden, and Chara as well as Havlat, Hossa, Alfie and Spezza would have been fun to watch, for me anyways haha.

If the lockout didn't happen there would have been more stacked rosters than the Senators had to offer.

Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONNot sure what Lee has to do with it, but 04-05 was the lockout so yes there were many NHLers on the baby sens that year.

Ray Emery, Jason Spezza, Chris Kelly, Anton Volchenkov, and Antoine Vermette all had less then 82 regular season games under their belt prior to that season.

I didn't even think this would be an argument. A strong AHL team that learns to, and experiences what it is to, win is an awesome precursor/predictor for a strong showing in the NHL in the next season or two. It likely requires a weak NHL team for those same players to be big pieces, but ...


Side note, got to play against Kris Fredheim last night (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... ?pid=83269) beauty of a guy - pretty obvious why he's almost made it and no one else is close. One end-to-ender, just looked easy and the shot barely resembled most of ours.

Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONAs a counter point, I'd like to offer up the roster of the Binghamton Senators from the same year, i.e. the year before the Sens lost to the Ducks in the finals, listed in order of scoring.

Denis Hamel
Steve Martins
Jeff Heerema
Charlie Stephens
Filip Novak
Brandon Bochenski
Grant Poultny
Danny Bois
Gregg Johnson
Tomas Malec
Lance Ward
Cory Pecker
Jan Platil
Joe Cullen
Patrick Eaves
Greg Watson
Brennan Evans
Bobby Robins
Brett Clouthier
Neil Komadowski
Brad Norton
Neil Petruic
etc etc.....

So it is quite evident that AHL rosters have no relation to NHL success!


.......This was a joke post too before I have people jumping down my throat, but it does illustrate why John Muckler should not be running the draft for an NHL franchise.

Do you guys bother to read before you start posting?