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TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:08 pm
by Robin Hood
My stupid trades from yesterday have cumulated to the swap below. Opinions? Feel free to post your rationale and any mistakes/things that should be fixed.

Leaving Pittsburgh

Nathan Horton
Alex Tanguay
Chris Pronger
Vladimir Tarasenko
10 - 2012 1st Round Picks
5 - 2013 1st Round Picks


Coming to Pittsburgh

Tomas Plekanec
TJ Oshie
JM Liles
Tyler Bozak
Frans Nielsen
Kyle Brodziak

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:17 pm
by Shep
You lost big, dumbass!

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:41 pm
by bills09
right now doing well but could have done better if you took your time IMO

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:45 pm
by Robin Hood
I broke it down yesterday as:

Brodziak ~= Horton + 1st in 2012
Nielsen ~= Tanguay + 1st in 2012 + 1st in 2013
Bozak + Liles ~= Tara + Pronger + 1st in 2012
Plekanec + Oshie for 11 1sts.

Looking back now though, I could've probably gotten a lot more for the picks. Meh.

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:51 pm
by Shep
bills09 wroteCOLONright now doing well but could have done better if you took your time IMO
Exactlyyyyyyyyyyyy

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:51 pm
by Nick
If someone wanted to take the time to see what you paid for the 1sts, i think they'd find you did a solid cycle....team is beast!

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:45 pm
by MSP4LYFE
bills09 wroteCOLONright now doing well but could have done better if you took your time IMO
Not if he wanted to make the playoffs...

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:46 pm
by Scott
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLONright now doing well but could have done better if you took your time IMO
Not if he wanted to make the playoffs...
Sure, but that's beside the point

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:58 pm
by armandtanzarian
You should have stuck to your original plan and used all of those assets come draft time. If you actually made this year a write-off and focused on next year you could have built whatever team your heart desired and maximized on all of those assets. You got a good team now, but you are still in a group of say 8 top teams, whereas if you were to wait till draft and offseason, i think you could have built the BBKL favorite for 2012-2013.

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:11 pm
by Nick
You were going to sell your player at draft time Kyle?

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:13 pm
by armandtanzarian
Nick wroteCOLONYou were going to sell your player at draft time Kyle?

I need that little head scratchy emoticon here Nick, Not following you? I was talking about Shiv. The thread title was opinions, please? 8-)

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:21 pm
by Robin Hood
CONSENSUS - Shiv should have held picks and slowly sold them for more value than he received.

I concur, gentlemen.

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:31 pm
by Nick
mr. bruin wroteCOLON
Nick wroteCOLONYou were going to sell your player at draft time Kyle?

I need that little head scratchy emoticon here Nick, Not following you? I was talking about Shiv. The thread title was opinions, please? 8-)

It was a joke comment. He paid the guys that have top end players what was needed to get them to move said players. For most of us the price doesn't change at draft time, that phase of the BBKL is slowly ending/die-ing out. My joking example was you, whose prices are unlikely to change regarding your studs and how you value draft selections.

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:46 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Scott wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLONright now doing well but could have done better if you took your time IMO
Not if he wanted to make the playoffs...
Sure, but that's beside the point
How is that beside the point, that was literally the basis for all of these moves. If anything, it is the point...

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:47 pm
by MSP4LYFE
mr. bruin wroteCOLONYou should have stuck to your original plan and used all of those assets come draft time. If you actually made this year a write-off and focused on next year you could have built whatever team your heart desired and maximized on all of those assets. You got a good team now, but you are still in a group of say 8 top teams, whereas if you were to wait till draft and offseason, i think you could have built the BBKL favorite for 2012-2013.
Eight? The list is alot closer to five or six teams. Let's be honest, the rest don't really have a chance.

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:50 pm
by Scott
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Scott wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
bills09 wroteCOLONright now doing well but could have done better if you took your time IMO
Not if he wanted to make the playoffs...
Sure, but that's beside the point
How is that beside the point, that was literally the basis for all of these moves. If anything, it is the point...
I get what you're saying but what Billy said is 100% truth.

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:50 pm
by KapG
Tebow wasn't suppose to have a chance against the Steelers ;).

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:56 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Scott wroteCOLONI get what you're saying but what Billy said is 100% truth.
In theory, sure, but at some point you need to heavily overpay to acquire top players, especially when you aren't giving them up.

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:14 pm
by Scott
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Scott wroteCOLONI get what you're saying but what Billy said is 100% truth.
In theory, sure, but at some point you need to heavily overpay to acquire top players, especially when you aren't giving them up.
That is a philosophy I've used since day one and it works! I couldn't agree with you more

Re: TRADE BREAKDOWN - OPINIONS PLEASE!

PostedCOLON Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:52 pm
by hong57
i think shiv is ok.. 1st rounders are overrated.