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Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:41 pm
by Robin Hood
What happens if:
1) Team A Scores a Goal but no one notices and play continues.
2) Team B scores on Team A
3) Team A's no-goal is reviewed and it turns out it was a goal
Does Team B's goal still count?
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:44 pm
by Scott
nope
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:11 pm
by Robin Hood
The Devil wroteCOLONnope
how do you know?
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:15 pm
by MSP4LYFE
SuperMario wroteCOLONThe Devil wroteCOLONnope
how do you know?
Because it's common sense? LOL
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:18 pm
by Robin Hood
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONSuperMario wroteCOLONThe Devil wroteCOLONnope
how do you know?
Because it's common sense? LOL
Kareem, it's a conclusion I reached too. But I'm asking for a rule that states this. Common sense is not why I posted this. I'm looking for the rule.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:20 pm
by Scott
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONSuperMario wroteCOLONThe Devil wroteCOLONnope
how do you know?
Because it's common sense? LOL
Pretty much..
I don't know where to find the exact rule but I've seen it happen in the NHL before.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:26 pm
by inferno31
I've heard it discussed by quite a few play by play guys. Team A's goal counts, and play is reset to that point more or less I believe. I'm actually more confused about what happens with the game clock, then which goal counts as it'll clearly be team A's goal.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:04 pm
by Mike
Didn't this happen a few years ago with Poni?
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:05 pm
by MSP4LYFE
inferno31 wroteCOLONI've heard it discussed by quite a few play by play guys. Team A's goal counts, and play is reset to that point more or less I believe. I'm actually more confused about what happens with the game clock, then which goal counts as it'll clearly be team A's goal.
The goal is counted for the original team, and the clock is reset to the time when the first goal was scored, just like they would do if the goal was counted in the first place, I don't have the rule book section for this, nor am I going to look for it, but I've seen it happen before, and frankly it's just common sense.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:09 pm
by Nick
kareem is right. have seen it at least twice.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:25 pm
by Mash
I give you...
Rule 78.6
Only one goal can be awarded at any stoppage of play. If the apparent goal was scored by Team A, and is subsequently confirmed as a goal by the Video Goal Judge, any goal scored by Team B during the period of time between the apparent goal By Team A and the stoppage of play (Team B’s goal), the Team B goal would not be awarded. However, if the apparent goal by Team A is deemed to have entered the goal, albeit illegally (i.e. distinct kicking motion), the goal shall be disallowed by the Video Goal Judge and since the play should have stopped for this disallowed goal, no goal can be awarded to Team B on the same play. The clock (including penalty time clocks, if applicable) must be re-set to the time of the disallowed Team A goal and play resumed.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:38 pm
by Robin Hood
Mash wroteCOLONI give you...
Rule 78.6
Only one goal can be awarded at any stoppage of play. If the apparent goal was scored by Team A, and is subsequently confirmed as a goal by the Video Goal Judge, any goal scored by Team B during the period of time between the apparent goal By Team A and the stoppage of play (Team B’s goal), the Team B goal would not be awarded. However, if the apparent goal by Team A is deemed to have entered the goal, albeit illegally (i.e. distinct kicking motion), the goal shall be disallowed by the Video Goal Judge and since the play should have stopped for this disallowed goal, no goal can be awarded to Team B on the same play. The clock (including penalty time clocks, if applicable) must be re-set to the time of the disallowed Team A goal and play resumed.
Thank you, Matt. What I was looking for. The bit about the kicking motion is extra cool.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:23 pm
by MSP4LYFE
And extra obvious.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:32 pm
by cliff11
SuperMario wroteCOLONWhat happens if:
1) Team A Scores a Goal but no one notices and play continues.
2) Team B scores on Team A
3) Team A's no-goal is reviewed and it turns out it was a goal
Does Team B's goal still count?
Wow rookie
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:34 pm
by cliff11
cliff11 wroteCOLONSuperMario wroteCOLONWhat happens if:
1) Team A Scores a Goal but no one notices and play continues.
2) Team B scores on Team A
3) Team A's no-goal is reviewed and it turns out it was a goal
Does Team B's goal still count?
Wow rookie
And you call yourself a hockey fan fml
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Sat Oct 29, 2011 1:54 pm
by inferno31
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONinferno31 wroteCOLONI've heard it discussed by quite a few play by play guys. Team A's goal counts, and play is reset to that point more or less I believe. I'm actually more confused about what happens with the game clock, then which goal counts as it'll clearly be team A's goal.
The goal is counted for the original team, and the clock is reset to the time when the first goal was scored, just like they would do if the goal was counted in the first place, I don't have the rule book section for this, nor am I going to look for it, but I've seen it happen before, and frankly it's just common sense.
I was thinking of the more rare situation where something actually happens in that time, not just play continues or a goal. Say a game misconduct occurs, a fight, etc. I'm thinking a game miscount and fighting penalties will still be assessed and the time clock just changed back to when the goal was scored, I've just never seen or heard of it happening.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:29 pm
by Mash
inferno31 wroteCOLONMSP4LYFE wroteCOLONinferno31 wroteCOLONI've heard it discussed by quite a few play by play guys. Team A's goal counts, and play is reset to that point more or less I believe. I'm actually more confused about what happens with the game clock, then which goal counts as it'll clearly be team A's goal.
The goal is counted for the original team, and the clock is reset to the time when the first goal was scored, just like they would do if the goal was counted in the first place, I don't have the rule book section for this, nor am I going to look for it, but I've seen it happen before, and frankly it's just common sense.
I was thinking of the more rare situation where something actually happens in that time, not just play continues or a goal. Say a game misconduct occurs, a fight, etc. I'm thinking a game miscount and fighting penalties will still be assessed and the time clock just changed back to when the goal was scored, I've just never seen or heard of it happening.
the rest of rule 78...
Any penalties signaled during the period of time between the apparent goal and the next stoppage of play shall be assessed in the normal manner, except when a minor penalty is to be assessed to the team scored upon, and is therefore nullified by the scoring of the goal. Refer to Rules 16.2 and 18.2. If an infraction happens after the first stoppage of play following an apparent goal (infraction after the whistle) by either team, it is assessed and served in the normal manner regardless as to the decision rendered by the Video Goal Judge.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:17 pm
by Nick
Yep - all logical stuff. Penalties stand as if happened after the whistle, all time set back to goal.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:43 pm
by Robin Hood
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONAnd extra obvious.
cliff11 wroteCOLONSuperMario wroteCOLONWhat happens if:
1) Team A Scores a Goal but no one notices and play continues.
2) Team B scores on Team A
3) Team A's no-goal is reviewed and it turns out it was a goal
Does Team B's goal still count?
Wow rookie
Do you guys get off on thinking you know hockey or something? I wanted the specific rule. Anyone with common sense can determine how it should work.
Re: Question About NHL Rules
PostedCOLON Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:16 pm
by bills09
cliff11 wroteCOLONSuperMario wroteCOLONWhat happens if:
1) Team A Scores a Goal but no one notices and play continues.
2) Team B scores on Team A
3) Team A's no-goal is reviewed and it turns out it was a goal
Does Team B's goal still count?
Wow rookie
LOL