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Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:13 am
by armandtanzarian
Just for fun and to do a little number crunching, i would like each GM to post all of there prospects and assign a % of likelihood that they make the NHL and play at least 100 games. Also, post what round they were drafted in. I will post my very few shortly. The outcome of this will be very informative to the value of prospects in this league.
example:
Jordan Caron - Round 1 - 80%
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:17 am
by Lee
No
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:21 am
by KapG
why, you trying to knock the value of prospects down so you can get them on the cheap?
I'll do one, that's it though.
J. Bernier - 1st round - 100%
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:21 am
by armandtanzarian
haha...no. I would just like to add up and average the numbers from this league and compare it to the actual known stats to show that we as a league may be a bit delusional
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:23 am
by Chris
Why 100 games? Why not aim higher? The average 1st round pick between 1979 to 1990 has played over 600 games.
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:29 am
by Robin Hood
Jamie Oleksiak - 100%
Dustin Jeffrey - 100%
There. I listed all my prospects lol.
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:03 pm
by armandtanzarian
Kezia wroteCOLONNo
Don't be scared. Everyone is so confident in there players when trade talks are going on, stand behind your boys and put up some numbers so everyone can either agree with you or bash you...I'll start
Tim Sestito - undrafted - 90%
Alex Friesen - 6th - 30%
Rob Bordson - undrafted - 40%
Michael Haley - undrafted - 70%
Jeremy Colliton - 2nd - 60%
Ryan Spooner - 2nd - 85%
Jordan Caron - 1st - 95%
I got too many. i'll finish later...
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:05 pm
by Lee
I think all of my prospects will make the NHL, otherwise they would not be on my team.
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:05 pm
by armandtanzarian
hockeysense wroteCOLONWhy 100 games? Why not aim higher? The average 1st round pick between 1979 to 1990 has played over 600 games.
Because 100 games can be compared against this:
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:06 pm
by armandtanzarian
SuperMario wroteCOLONJamie Oleksiak - 100%
Dustin Jeffrey - 100%
There. I listed all my prospects lol.
Hopefully he is the same player after that injury.
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:07 pm
by Chris
I've actually done the leg-work myself. Nick can speak to that. The 100 game barometer is an arbitrary bar designed to determine "success". 100 games out of a 1st round pick is not successful.
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:09 pm
by Arian The Insider
all of my prospects are 100%. obviously.
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:21 pm
by armandtanzarian
So that chart is actually overly deceiving?
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:24 pm
by kyuss
SuperMario wroteCOLONJamie Oleksiak - 100%
Dustin Jeffrey - 100%
There. I listed all my prospects lol.
and we already know you are obv wrong on both
(even if they will play 1000 games, that is, in case you're misunderstanding)
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:25 pm
by kyuss
mr. bruin wroteCOLONKezia wroteCOLONNo
Don't be scared. Everyone is so confident in there players when trade talks are going on, stand behind your boys and put up some numbers so everyone can either agree with you or bash you...
lol, don't you think i already get enough of that without this thread?
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:29 pm
by kimmer
0%
All of mine suck
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:34 pm
by Chris
The attachment shows what I'm working on. I've selected each draft between 1979 to 2011 to flush out the expectation of games-played per draft, per round, per pick, per team, per position. It's not close to finished - and I had to manually input each player's position - but so far, I've found out that 100 games isn't even close to the average number of games played in the first round.
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:38 pm
by Chris
An example of this: In the first round between 1979 to 1990, the average number of games played is 672.12.
For forwards, it's 657.09
For defensemen, it's 704.72
For goaltenders, it's 578.71
Point is, this is only the surface of the expectations for players selected in the first round, and games-played is too one dimensional.
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:57 pm
by kimmer
Rob Ramage is fucking sweet!
Re: Your Prospects and the odds they make the NHL
PostedCOLON Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:02 pm
by Mike
Kyle, what is your criteria for a prospect in this thread?