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Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:57 am
by Shep
To St. Louis:
Patrick Sharp
Alexander Burmistrov
Evgeny Dadanov

To Colorado:
Zach Parise
Clarke MacArthur
Blair Betts

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:00 am
by shooker
confimo...more to come

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:01 am
by MSP4LYFE
LOL @ "The Storm"

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:44 am
by Robin Hood
shep knew about my offer when he made this deal. and i dont see why he chose this over mine lol.

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:54 am
by Robin Hood
Shep call be crazy buddy but essentially you had two offers on the table:

Offer 1: Patrick Sharp Alexander Burmistrov Evgeny Dadanov
Offer 2: Johan Franzen + Tomas Fleischmann + Manny Malhotra + Clark MacArthur + Blair Betts

Why you chose offer 1 escapes me.

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:57 am
by MSP4LYFE
SuperMario wroteCOLONShep call be crazy buddy but essentially you had two offers on the table:

Offer 1: Patrick Sharp Alexander Burmistrov Evgeny Dadanov
Offer 2: Johan Franzen + Tomas Fleischmann + Manny Malhotra + Clark MacArthur + Blair Betts

Why you chose offer 1 escapes me.
I don't understand either, Shep is a contender, with that in mind you would think offer 2 makes the most sense.

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:03 am
by Nick
Sharp is the best player and Burmi the best prospect, why take bulk?

Solid trade boys.

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:14 am
by Robin Hood
facey wroteCOLONSharp is the best player and Burmi the best prospect, why take bulk?

Solid trade boys.
worst analysis ever

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:19 am
by MSP4LYFE
SuperMario wroteCOLON
facey wroteCOLONSharp is the best player and Burmi the best prospect, why take bulk?

Solid trade boys.
worst analysis ever
Agreed.

By that logic, a trade such as:

Pavel Datsyuk
Alexander Burmistrov

for

Patrick Sharp
Phil Kessel
Matt Cooke
Andrew Ladd
Jeff Carter
John Mcfarland
Dylan Mcilrath

is a good one...

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:45 am
by shooker
SuperMario wroteCOLON
facey wroteCOLONSharp is the best player and Burmi the best prospect, why take bulk?

Solid trade boys.
worst analysis ever
I agree with this analysis

Well I never (for worse or for better) would have taken shivs offer if I wasnt trying to improve my goaltending. I told shep before we were even into trade talks I didnt like the deal I ended up taking and told him after that I will only like it if I get my goalie afterwards. The only reason its worth while for me is the other pieces that I got from shep, shivs deal alone didn't imo. I told shep I was going to probably end up taking it while we were discussing the trade as well. In fact it was probably kareem that talked me into doing the deal with shiv anyway, I didn't want to when the parise deal was first on the table.

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:07 am
by Robin Hood
Parise - Datsyuk - Kane
Sedin - Sedin - Alfredsson

:D

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:04 am
by Scott
SuperMario wroteCOLONParise - Datsyuk - Kane
Sedin - Sedin - Alfredsson

:D
Not 1 Canadian.. sad

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:19 am
by Robin Hood
Raptactics wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLONParise - Datsyuk - Kane
Sedin - Sedin - Alfredsson

:D
Not 1 Canadian.. sad
Well aren't you Mr. Glass is Half Empty

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:49 am
by kimmer
Raptactics wroteCOLON
SuperMario wroteCOLONParise - Datsyuk - Kane
Sedin - Sedin - Alfredsson

:D
Not 1 Canadian.. sad
+1

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:06 pm
by Shep
With Parise's raise in the summer, there is no way I'd be able to keep him. I got a great H2H point-getting in Sharp along with a high-end prospect.

I said I had two things I would want. Two 60-70 point versions of Parise. Or one of those and a very high-end prospect that is good in the periphs.

I got version two. Although I had to add a bit, soft 50 point players like MacArthur and periph players like Betts are a dime-a-dozen.

Fuck it!

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:09 pm
by Shep
I figured a Parise @ $3.1mil that is hurt will be worth more than a $6.5mil Parise that missed almost an entire season, after he signs his new contract.

And realistically, I am not a contender. Those who can't see that are semi-retarded. Look at my schedule, that's why I'm being deceived as good.

I tied Hong and now I'm getting crushed by Shiv. When I play anybody good, I get schooled.

My team has 4pts this week. Not sure what kind of contender does that.

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:15 pm
by kimmer
Snipeshow wroteCOLONWith Parise's raise in the summer, there is no way I'd be able to keep him. I got a great H2H point-getting in Sharp along with a high-end prospect.

I said I had two things I would want. Two 60-70 point versions of Parise. Or one of those and a very high-end prospect that is good in the periphs.

I got version two. Although I had to add a bit, soft 50 point players like MacArthur and periph players like Betts are a dime-a-dozen.

Fuck it!
Still paid way too much... but I shouldn't be talking

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:30 pm
by kimmer
Snipeshow wroteCOLONI figured a Parise @ $3.1mil that is hurt will be worth more than a $6.5mil Parise that missed almost an entire season, after he signs his new contract.

And realistically, I am not a contender. Those who can't see that are semi-retarded. Look at my schedule, that's why I'm being deceived as good.

I tied Hong and now I'm getting crushed by Shiv. When I play anybody good, I get schooled.

My team has 4pts this week. Not sure what kind of contender does that.
Also, it's because Ovi and Semin are being bad

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:08 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Snipeshow wroteCOLONMy team has 4pts this week. Not sure what kind of contender does that.
You have more than me, does that mean I am not a contender?

Just because you aren't there now, doesn't mean you cant get there. You were close, but much like MTL decided to throw in the towel, I will never understand that reasoning, but to each his own.

Re: Trade: STL/COL -- The Storm

PostedCOLON Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:34 pm
by Nick
SuperMario wroteCOLONShep call be crazy buddy but essentially you had two offers on the table:

Offer 1: Patrick Sharp Alexander Burmistrov Evgeny Dadanov
Offer 2: Johan Franzen + Tomas Fleischmann + Manny Malhotra + Clark MacArthur + Blair Betts

Why you chose offer 1 escapes me.
Johan Franzen = the most over-rated player in the NHL, plus he's extremely injury prone, and not a complete h2h player. You can repeat that line for Tomas except he's not as gifted offensively.

Manny is a good 3rd line centre, but one w/o any offence.

MacArthur is a nice piece and has been playing very well, and has an extremely friendly cap hit, Betts doesn't even dress every game, but good injury depth I guess.


Sharp is an elite h2h player, every skater category and he's a winger :) very reasonable cap hit. Burmi is already doing good things, seems to be datsyuk-lite. Dadanov has recieved little to no coverage, but looks fantastic and is already producing.

Both are worth considering, but I'd have taken the Sharp offer just like Shep did.