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Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:37 am
by bma
Why do we have to submit rosters so early? 2 weeks before the season starts?

NHL teams still have 50-60 guys at camp. Teams still havent made their cuts yet. There are still UFA's who could be signed within a week or 2. Guys can get injured at camp/preseason. So why are we submitting rosters so early?

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:16 am
by MSP4LYFE
bcool wroteCOLONWhy do we have to submit rosters so early? 2 weeks before the season starts?

NHL teams still have 50-60 guys at camp. Teams still havent made their cuts yet. There are still UFA's who could be signed within a week or 2. Guys can get injured at camp/preseason. So why are we submitting rosters so early?
We are submitting rosters one week early...The first scheduled game is on October 8th, we need the time between then and the first game to check over all team spread sheets and ensure all 30 cubs are cap compliant, and under the 50 contract/60 player limit. Furthermore, no team is still at 50/60 guys, it's more like 45-50, and less in most cases. That number should be around 25-30 by the 27th, which is more than enough time to gauge player value.

If a player is still unsigned, no need to worry, you can freely callup/demote a newly signed player (only once) after Oct 27th, and they don't need to count against your 23 man roster (if you don't want them too) until they sign.

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:39 pm
by Shoalzie
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONIf a player is still unsigned, no need to worry, you can freely callup/demote a newly signed player (only once) after Oct 27th, and they don't need to count against your 23 man roster (if you don't want them too) until they sign.

Good to know.

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:52 am
by kyuss
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
bcool wroteCOLONWhy do we have to submit rosters so early? 2 weeks before the season starts?

NHL teams still have 50-60 guys at camp. Teams still havent made their cuts yet. There are still UFA's who could be signed within a week or 2. Guys can get injured at camp/preseason. So why are we submitting rosters so early?
We are submitting rosters one week early...The first scheduled game is on October 8th,
7th.
we need the time between then and the first game to check over all team spread sheets and ensure all 30 cubs are cap compliant, and under the 50 contract/60 player limit. Furthermore, no team is still at 50/60 guys
i think i was at 74 when you wrote this post lol
it's more like 45-50, and less in most cases. That number should be around 25-30 by the 27th, which is more than enough time to gauge player value.
25-30? what's that?
If a player is still unsigned, no need to worry, you can freely callup/demote a newly signed player (only once) after Oct 27th, and they don't need to count against your 23 man roster (if you don't want them too) until they sign.
did you mean sept 27th?

example:
Jere Lehtinen is unsigned, so i can submit my roster with him in the farm without the need to place him on waivers, even if older than 28. Once he comes back to the Stars, i can call him up to the active roster without exposing him to re-entry waivers.
(makes sense, otherwise one would have to keep the unsigned player on the 23 active roster to be able to use him when he signs). From that point forward he will be again eligible for waivers.

Is all of this correct? thx

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:41 am
by Scott
kyuss wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
bcool wroteCOLONWhy do we have to submit rosters so early? 2 weeks before the season starts?

NHL teams still have 50-60 guys at camp. Teams still havent made their cuts yet. There are still UFA's who could be signed within a week or 2. Guys can get injured at camp/preseason. So why are we submitting rosters so early?
We are submitting rosters one week early...The first scheduled game is on October 8th,
7th.
we need the time between then and the first game to check over all team spread sheets and ensure all 30 cubs are cap compliant, and under the 50 contract/60 player limit. Furthermore, no team is still at 50/60 guys
i think i was at 74 when you wrote this post lol
it's more like 45-50, and less in most cases. That number should be around 25-30 by the 27th, which is more than enough time to gauge player value.
25-30? what's that?
If a player is still unsigned, no need to worry, you can freely callup/demote a newly signed player (only once) after Oct 27th, and they don't need to count against your 23 man roster (if you don't want them too) until they sign.
did you mean sept 27th?

example:
Jere Lehtinen is unsigned, so i can submit my roster with him in the farm without the need to place him on waivers, even if older than 28. Once he comes back to the Stars, i can call him up to the active roster without exposing him to re-entry waivers.
(makes sense, otherwise one would have to keep the unsigned player on the 23 active roster to be able to use him when he signs). From that point forward he will be again eligible for waivers.

Is all of this correct? thx
All correct.

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:58 am
by Lee
So someone signs, they don't have to be exposed on waivers for a short time.

What about the person we send down to make room, if they are waiver elibigle?

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:43 am
by Mash
Kezia wroteCOLONSo someone signs, they don't have to be exposed on waivers for a short time.

What about the person we send down to make room, if they are waiver elibigle?
Lets see if I can answer this in such a way where I regard your feelings...

When a player does NOT have a contract, however, meets all other requirements for waiver eligibilty (ie. 150 GPs, over 28 years old) They ARE allowed to be in Minors. We shall call him Player A.

In the Event of Player A signing a deal he must be brought to active roster immediately to avoid Waiver Eligibilty. If there is no room in your Pressbox then you must assign someone to your Minors...Player B if you will.

It is a strong suggestion that you have room in your pressbox for this situation however if not then the next best thing would be to have Player B be a NON-Waiver Eligible player, beacause if Player B is indeed Waiver Eigible he will be subject to the 24 hour waiver period upon you sending him to the minors.

How'd I do?

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:53 am
by Lee
Thank you

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:55 am
by Mash
Kezia wroteCOLONThank you

Hmm, I take that as I posted in a friendly way! Katie will indeed be proud! bahaha.

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:01 am
by Topher
I know I am lol

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PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:05 am
by Mash
Topher wroteCOLONI know I am lol
LOL

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:17 am
by Lee
Mashley93 wroteCOLON
Kezia wroteCOLONThank you

Hmm, I take that as I posted in a friendly way! Katie will indeed be proud! bahaha.
Started off kinda douchey but I thought that I'd let it slide.

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:18 am
by Topher
Knowing Mash I can tell you that was very polite on his part, I know I am incapable of being that polite

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:20 am
by Mash
Kezia wroteCOLON
Mashley93 wroteCOLON
Kezia wroteCOLONThank you

Hmm, I take that as I posted in a friendly way! Katie will indeed be proud! bahaha.
Started off kinda douchey but I thought that I'd let it slide.

baby steps Kezia, baby steps. I rarely care for others feelings, in fact I still don't give a shit about your feelings but im trying to portray differently.

well theres goes that attempt at being nice. wow its harder than i thought.

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:21 am
by Mash
Topher wroteCOLONKnowing Mash I can tell you that was very polite on his part, I know I am incapable of being that polite
you can be polite... its just your sudden outbursts of killer instincts that is triggered by the smallest sense of confrontation that is often questioned by many of us and im sure many professionals also. lol

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:22 am
by Mash
Topher wroteCOLONKnowing Mash I can tell you that was very polite on his part, I know I am incapable of being that polite
you can be polite... its just your sudden outbursts of killer instincts that is triggered by the smallest sense of confrontation that is often questioned by many of us and im sure many professionals also. lol

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:25 am
by Topher
You would be shocked at my amount of patience i especially showed it last night when some lady asked me if i am incompetent and if i knew how to save her information correctly because she is sick of us that do not know how to do our job, clearly she had a bad time with a previous agent lol

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:42 am
by Lee
Everyone in this thread gets a gold star for playing along together so nicely.

Re: Roster Submission...

PostedCOLON Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:58 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Mashley93 wroteCOLON
Topher wroteCOLONKnowing Mash I can tell you that was very polite on his part, I know I am incapable of being that polite
you can be polite... its just your sudden outbursts of killer instincts that is triggered by the smallest sense of confrontation that is often questioned by many of us and im sure many professionals also. lol
Everyone keeps saying that about Topher, and I haven't seen it once...And I'm not exactly the type of person who brings out the best in others...

Why you holdin out on me Toph?