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HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:31 pm
by anton
To MTL:

Chris Kunitz
2011 4th CHI

To CHI:

Kurtis Foster
2011 7th PIT

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:32 pm
by Chuck Norris
Confirmed.

Great first deal between our teams.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:56 am
by The BBKL Insider
sure is a great deal

for Montreal.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:48 am
by anton
what was i thinking getting a 42 pt (in 71 games) d-man with a 1.8 mill cap hit for the worst of my 10 NHL wingers!

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:56 am
by The BBKL Insider
anton wroteCOLONwhat was i thinking getting a 42 pt (in 71 games) d-man with a 1.8 mill cap hit for the worst of my 10 NHL wingers!

Foster is good, no doubt....but he was the man last year in TB on a good offensive team.

I can't see him putting up 40+ points again.


Kunitz on the other hand, can be a serious H2H beast esp if he's playing with Crosby all year.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:02 am
by anton
kunitz = 50 pts and 180 hits. 3.75 cap hit, limited pp time.

foster = 40 pts and 80 blocked shots. 1.8 cap hit, ample pp time.

like i said, i had wingers to burn...kunitz being by far the most expendable.

even if neal signs for 5 and mueller for 3 (both of which wont happen) i now have over 5 mill to shop with.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:06 am
by Shoalzie
Foster is a very nice pickup for the Hawks to give him offense as a reduced price. As Anton said, he had wingers to move so he did a nice job in flipping one of his expendable pieces for a nice value guy in Foster. It's a solid trade for both sides.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:09 am
by Scott
I would've went with the other Dman that was being offered.. you know who I'm talking about Anton!

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:10 am
by anton
Raptactics wroteCOLONI would've went with the other Dman that was being offered.. you know who I'm talking about Anton!
you're such a wiener.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:24 am
by Scott
anton wroteCOLON
you're such a wiener.
Not Yandle lol.. the other one

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:23 am
by The BBKL Insider
All of your active Dman are better than Foster

so i'm quite interested in who it would have been.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:08 pm
by inferno31
sgupca wroteCOLONAll of your active Dman are better than Foster

so i'm quite interested in who it would have been.
It wasn't one of Scott's players. ;)

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:45 pm
by Robin Hood
cough *vlasic* cough.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:43 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Vlasic >>> Foster


however, he also makes twice as much.


So im sure that played a factor

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:39 pm
by anton
vlasic's diminished role in SJ this year scared me a bit.

with the rise of Demers, im not sure that changes this season either.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:52 pm
by Robin Hood
if anything, the retirement of blake increases the value of vlassic a LOT. demers' rise doesnt change anything.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:44 pm
by The BBKL Insider
I'm with shiv there.

However, like i said earlier, Fosters cap hit is pretty nice compared to The pickle.

Re: HAWKS/HABS

PostedCOLON Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:48 pm
by anton
SuperMario wroteCOLONif anything, the retirement of blake increases the value of vlassic a LOT. demers' rise doesnt change anything.
how can blake's retirement increase vlasic's value "A LOT" but the rise of demers not change anything?

blake is only 1 person. him retiring opens up 1 spot on the pp next to boyle.

demers outpointed vlasic in 15 less games last season.

vlasic 16 pts in 64 games.
demers 21 pts in 51 games.

vlasic pp per game: 1:43
demers pp per game: 2:22

demers was already getting more points and pp time vlasic last season.

vlasic may get some of blake's shtoi mins, but demers will get his pp time and they will likely split the ES time.

my d is loaded with shtoi guys (gorges, wis, tyutin, hjalmarsson), i needed straight offence. i got it.

foster > vlasic offensively.

there also seems to be this weird perception that i could have just substituted vlasic into this deal and neel would have taken it. in reality, neel didn't want to do kunitz straight up for vlasic and wanted me to add a piece.

in conclusion: i got the better (imo) player for a better deal and a cheaper price.