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1 Winger Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:35 am
by Shep
I am looking for centres and defencemen.

Matt Moulson

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:39 am
by KapG
2 studs...

wish i didn't have only 3 active centres atm.

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:41 am
by kimmer
Go offer up on nicklas backtrom + coburn or justin schultz for both to aidan

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:48 am
by The BBKL Insider
dAN boyle for either

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:07 pm
by CAM
I want Centres and Defenseman also.

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:09 pm
by CAM
Why are we forced to roster centres? If i choose to roster a forward cor of all wingers, why is that not allowed? I am only hurting myself in not winning FOW....just a discussion starter... ;)

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:10 pm
by KapG
Another good cc topic, nice one kyle.

Trade me something now

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:18 pm
by The BBKL Insider
I have T.J. Brodie - waiver exempt, #2 dman for the flames.

but i'd trade him for neither of the guys listed.

Thx anyways shep

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:18 pm
by Bruyns
CAM wroteCOLONWhy are we forced to roster centres? If i choose to roster a forward cor of all wingers, why is that not allowed? I am only hurting myself in not winning FOW....just a discussion starter... ;)
Especially when Cs you are counting on to be in your lineup lose their C eligibility forcing you to add a C in a trade you wouldn't otherwise do. I agree with Kyle in that I don't understand why a C/W can't dress as a C once they fall short of the FOR. I understand making Ws who are taking lots of FOs a C, but who cares if a player is a C and not taking draws, like it was mentioned it only hurts that GM and provides no advantage.

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:19 pm
by KapG
Yah I want boone as a c!

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:26 pm
by Arian The Insider
ribeiro is available

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:31 pm
by anton
CAM wroteCOLONWhy are we forced to roster centres? If i choose to roster a forward cor of all wingers, why is that not allowed? I am only hurting myself in not winning FOW....just a discussion starter... ;)
if you do that then you'd have to also allow full rosters of centers which would throw player values totally out of whack.

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:34 pm
by CAM
anton wroteCOLON
CAM wroteCOLONWhy are we forced to roster centres? If i choose to roster a forward cor of all wingers, why is that not allowed? I am only hurting myself in not winning FOW....just a discussion starter... ;)
if you do that then you'd have to also allow full rosters of centers which would throw player values totally out of whack.
Why? Max centers = 5. Max W = 12. There is no advantage to rostering 12 wingers, where there is an advantage to rostering 12 centers, statwise.

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:35 pm
by Robin Hood
CAM wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLON
CAM wroteCOLONWhy are we forced to roster centres? If i choose to roster a forward cor of all wingers, why is that not allowed? I am only hurting myself in not winning FOW....just a discussion starter... ;)
if you do that then you'd have to also allow full rosters of centers which would throw player values totally out of whack.
Why? Max centers = 5. Max W = 12. There is no advantage to rostering 12 wingers, where there is an advantage to rostering 12 centers, statwise.
1. There is definitely an advantage to rostering 12 Ws.
2. No NHL team can roll without Cs. 3 is the minimum for that reason.
3. We're not a Yahoo league. We're trying to make this as close to the real NHL as possible.
4. Also why we have FOR to evaluate C eligibility. If a guy is taking too many FOs, he's a C.

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:04 pm
by Shep
2 deals in the works, both guys likely gone.

Thanks for coming out.

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:11 pm
by anton
CAM wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLON
CAM wroteCOLONWhy are we forced to roster centres? If i choose to roster a forward cor of all wingers, why is that not allowed? I am only hurting myself in not winning FOW....just a discussion starter... ;)
if you do that then you'd have to also allow full rosters of centers which would throw player values totally out of whack.
Why? Max centers = 5. Max W = 12. There is no advantage to rostering 12 wingers, where there is an advantage to rostering 12 centers, statwise.
if we're trying to mirror the NHL as accurately as possible then yes teams can play all wingers if they want, but they could also theoretically ice all centers (ala team canada).

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:22 pm
by kimmer
Team canada = IIHF =/= NHL

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:30 pm
by Arian The Insider
gooker wroteCOLONTeam canada = IIHF =/= NHL
what he's trying to say is a team in real life can dress 7 guys who play center if they want to and put 3 of them on the wing.

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:41 pm
by anton
the sharks for example

Re: 2 Wingers Available

PostedCOLON Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:51 pm
by Mike
CAM wroteCOLONWhy are we forced to roster centres? If i choose to roster a forward cor of all wingers, why is that not allowed? I am only hurting myself in not winning FOW....just a discussion starter... ;)
In the NHL you can dress 12 guys who are usually all wingers, but if they are taking draws they are centres. If you see a game where one team declines to participate in faceoffs I will find more value in this argument.
Bruyns wroteCOLONEspecially when Cs you are counting on to be in your lineup lose their C eligibility forcing you to add a C in a trade you wouldn't otherwise do. I agree with Kyle in that I don't understand why a C/W can't dress as a C once they fall short of the FOR. I understand making Ws who are taking lots of FOs a C, but who cares if a player is a C and not taking draws, like it was mentioned it only hurts that GM and provides no advantage.
You are able to track your team's FOR numbers and be proactive when it comes to having enough eligible players.

On the topic of C/W: there is no such thing in BBKL. All players are uni-positional.

We have a lot of in-built flexibility as far as positional eligibility goes: you can dress another dman instead of a fwd, you can go plus or minus one on the usual 4 centres.

Were we to abolish the need for centres there would be a couple consequences. First, some tanking teams would get rid of their centres to tank a full cat every week. That outcome is anti-competitive in my opinion and should be discouraged. Second, the market will be flooded with centres which would lower their value dramatically as a whole. No value judgement on this point.