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Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:52 am
by Robin Hood
Below is my list of players with what type of deal I expect in return for each. But it occurred to me today that wherever I go, I see a price tag on things I can buy and I've never experimented with exactly what price I expect for each of my players. It eliminates a lot of back and forth in talks as well.

The examples used will not be isolated to any particular team/aren't offers. But they are to be used as benchmarks when talking about the players on the list.

*Note: The Benchmarks below have not taken cap into consideration.
Centers

Tomas Plekanec - <Jason Spezza + Chris Kreider> or equivalent
Mikhail Grabovski - <Marian Hossa> or equivalent
Kyle Brodziak - <Justin Williams + Jared Tinordi> or equivalent
Frans Nielsen - <Matt Moulson + Stuart Percy> or equivalent
Brandon Sutter - <Mark Letestu + Jiri Tlusty> or equivalent

Wingers

TJ Oshie - <Nikolai Kulemin + Emerson Etem> or equivalent
Pascal Dupuis - <Joffrey Lupul + Carter Ashton> or equivalent
Chris Kunitz - <Scott Hartnell + Cory Conacher> or equivalent
Viktor Stalberg - <Justin Williams> or equivalent
Kyle Okposo - <Matt Read> or equivalent
Lauri Korpikoski - <Chris Stewart> or equivalent

Defence

Mark Giordano - <Alex Goligoski> or equivalent
Brooks Orpik - <Luke Schenn> or equivalent
Francois Beauchemin - <Christian Ehrhoff + Mason Raymond> or equivalent
Andrew Ference - <Cody Franson> or equivalent
Carl Gunnarsson - <Marc-Edouard Vlasic> or equivalent
Kevin Klein - <Jake Gardiner> or equivalent
Karl Alzner - <Johan Franzen> or equivalent

Goalies

Crawford/Khabibulin - <MIN system + Joe Morrow + 1st in 2014> or equivalent
I realize some of the prices will get ridiculed by everyone. But I imagine 90% of players listed here will not have their prices met. 1-2 deals may come from this block because there is a point of agreement.

If you see a price tag above that is around where you value the particular player, PM/Skype. I imagine a deal would get done rather quickly as long as cap can be worked out.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:15 am
by anton
i made it through the first 2 centers before laughing my ass of and scrolling down to post this

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:16 am
by bills09
wheres the lowball?

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:17 am
by Robin Hood
You boys laugh. But we all value certain players on our rosters a lot. I guarantee a few deals will come out of this block.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:22 am
by bills09
fair but..Grabo for Hossa though really.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:24 am
by Robin Hood
bills09 wroteCOLONfair but..Grabo for Hossa though really.
2nd Line C for a W of Hossa's caliber is standard in this league. Hossa is 34 and 2.3M more expensive. Where exactly is that unreasonable? I do not think the Grabo benchmark is off at all or a case of me liking my player more than I should. Wait till Grabo plays for the Caps. This opinion will change.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:28 am
by Tony
Image

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:06 am
by Shep
Player valuations like this is why we haven't made a trade since August 2012.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:02 am
by Lee
Shit's cray cray yo

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:24 am
by Robin Hood
Bump.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:28 am
by The BBKL Insider
lol

usually when you're trading the worst player you dont ask for an add too lol

shit's crazy up there :)

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:35 am
by Nick
neat idea.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:40 am
by Peter
Kyle Turris <Erik Karlsson>

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:18 am
by Robin Hood
Bump

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:38 am
by Robin Hood
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONlol

usually when you're trading the worst player you dont ask for an add too lol

shit's crazy up there :)
What's annoying is that everyone has come in here to troll. I am fully aware that many of those prices will never be met. E.g. I value Frans Nielsen more than most people.

But I'd say at least 4-5 prices are within a range that can result in a deal.

If other teams did this, I bet a similar % of "fair" valuations would result as we all have players we like more than others, which is why we have them on our teams.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:40 am
by Mike
meh, already told you i thought okposo/read was pretty fair if i could afford the cap dif

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:42 am
by The BBKL Insider
I'd say 2, possible 3 are 'within' fair range.

but that's me, gotta give u credit, you're publically persistant.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:43 am
by Nick
I agree with lots of what you are saying. There is a reason we own the players we do.

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:45 am
by Robin Hood
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONI'd say 2, possible 3 are 'within' fair range.

but that's me, gotta give u credit, you're publically persistant.
I'd say, the following are within range:

Mikhail Grabovski
Pascal Dupuis
Chris Kunitz
Viktor Stalberg
Kyle Okposo
Lauri Korpikoski
Francois Beauchemin
Carl Gunnarsson
Karl Alzner

Re: Penguins Block With Prices

PostedCOLON Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:53 am
by The BBKL Insider
I'd say, the following are within range:

Viktor Stalberg
Carl Gunnarsson

the maybe 3rd guy i was talking about was Gio

but i personally wouldn't trade Goli for Gio, but value wise it could be close.