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Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:36 pm
by anton
am i missing something about bogosian that makes him worth over 5 million dollars?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:48 pm
by Robin Hood
The 7 year term is a lot. Bogo didn't want a bridge to UFA status? But might have been a negotiating tactic by the Jets. "We'll do 5M+ on a long-term deal but not for 2-3 years"

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:52 pm
by shooker
anton wroteCOLONam i missing something about bogosian that makes him worth over 5 million dollars?
I know what you mean with superior players such as McDonagh or Shattenkirk signing for much less in the same offseason, however given the term and how terrible the back end is in WPG, he is worth it for them. He still is a pretty good dman.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:53 pm
by thom54
AP is gonna get paaaaiiiiddddd

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:55 pm
by Nick
anton wroteCOLONam i missing something about bogosian that makes him worth over 5 million dollars?
http://capgeek.com/comparables/?player_id=349



Would appear so, he stands out as a very good all around defender when I watch the Jets, his numbers are solid, and on both fronts I think he compares well with similar salaries. Health and PP time are only items holding him back from being part of a higher tier.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:01 pm
by kimmer
hes high tier. but on shitty team. under achiever with higher ceiling . hes an inelastic product in wpg. nuff said. fair price @ 5.14

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:06 pm
by Nick
sometimes... when you think about it, it is rather annoying that what we 'discard' from their salary is actually a rather comfortable income... 'just over 5M" -> leaving unmentioned the 142K annually that would be nice.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:08 pm
by MSP4LYFE
shooker wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLONam i missing something about bogosian that makes him worth over 5 million dollars?
I know what you mean with superior players such as McDonagh or Shattenkirk signing for much less in the same offseason, however given the term and how terrible the back end is in WPG, he is worth it for them. He still is a pretty good dman.
McDonagh and Shattenkirk signed bridge deals, whereas the Jets bought out several of Bogosian's UFA years, the two situations are nowhere near comparable.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:08 pm
by Robin Hood
Nick wroteCOLONsometimes... when you think about it, it is rather annoying that what we 'discard' from their salary is actually a rather comfortable income... 'just over 5M" -> leaving unmentioned the 142K annually that would be nice.
LOL yea must be nice. Just over 5M...142K which is >>> almost everyone's annual income.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:11 pm
by MSP4LYFE
anton wroteCOLONam i missing something about bogosian that makes him worth over 5 million dollars?
The Jets paid for three of Bogosian's UFA years, factor in inflation, and potential and 5M is probably the going rate for a young top four defenceman, Roman Josi received a similar deal.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:12 pm
by Mike
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
shooker wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLONam i missing something about bogosian that makes him worth over 5 million dollars?
I know what you mean with superior players such as McDonagh or Shattenkirk signing for much less in the same offseason, however given the term and how terrible the back end is in WPG, he is worth it for them. He still is a pretty good dman.
McDonagh and Shattenkirk signed bridge deals, whereas the Jets bought out several of Bogosian's UFA years, the two situations are nowhere near comparable.
6 years (at 4.7) is a pretty long bridge contract for McD

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:13 pm
by shooker
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
shooker wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLONam i missing something about bogosian that makes him worth over 5 million dollars?
I know what you mean with superior players such as McDonagh or Shattenkirk signing for much less in the same offseason, however given the term and how terrible the back end is in WPG, he is worth it for them. He still is a pretty good dman.
McDonagh and Shattenkirk signed bridge deals, whereas the Jets bought out several of Bogosian's UFA years, the two situations are nowhere near comparable.
McDonagh signed for 6 seasons and is one year older than Bogo. They will be the same age and both UFA's when their contracts end.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:15 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Mike wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
shooker wroteCOLON
anton wroteCOLONam i missing something about bogosian that makes him worth over 5 million dollars?
I know what you mean with superior players such as McDonagh or Shattenkirk signing for much less in the same offseason, however given the term and how terrible the back end is in WPG, he is worth it for them. He still is a pretty good dman.
McDonagh and Shattenkirk signed bridge deals, whereas the Jets bought out several of Bogosian's UFA years, the two situations are nowhere near comparable.
6 years (at 4.7) is a pretty long bridge contract for McD
I didn't realize that McDonagh's deal was for 6 years, but I also didn't realize that it was for 4.7M which is a comparable amount to Bogosian and Josi. You also need to factor in McDonagh's willingness to stay, which clearly played a role in his contract, he easily could have got more salary at that term if not for the Rangers tight cap. Perhaps the Rangers agreed to make it up to him in his next deal?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:16 pm
by MSP4LYFE
shooker wroteCOLONMcDonagh signed for 6 seasons and is one year older than Bogo. They will be the same age and both UFA's when their contracts end.
You are right, but it really doesn't change my argument. The two contracts are comparable, if anything one justifies the other.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:25 pm
by Nick
I take Bogo over McDonut everyday of the week, and twice on toonie Tuesday.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:30 pm
by shooker
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
shooker wroteCOLONMcDonagh signed for 6 seasons and is one year older than Bogo. They will be the same age and both UFA's when their contracts end.
You are right, but it really doesn't change my argument. The two contracts are comparable, if anything one justifies the other.
fair. You are also right about the whole McDonagh wanting to stay thing. He plays for a winning team and gets to live in one of the most amazing cities in the world while doing so, Winnipeg just doesn't hold that luster. Although playing in front of those fans must be a rush. It would require more money to make me move to wpg over nyc for sure.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:32 pm
by Mike
Dude lived in ptbo, could the peg really be that much worse?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:32 pm
by Robin Hood
Nick wroteCOLONI take Bogo over McDonut everyday of the week, and twice on toonie Tuesday.
McDonagh over Bogo all day every day for me.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:33 pm
by Robin Hood
Mike wroteCOLONDude lived in ptbo, could the peg really be that much worse?
Ptbo?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:34 pm
by anton
i would invent a new day and then take mcdonagh over bogosian on that day as well which totals 8 days out of 8 i would mcdonagh over bogosian