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Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:44 pm
by MSP4LYFE
shooker wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONThe Paul Ranger signing is going to make it very difficult, if not impossible for Morgan Rielly to make the Leafs this season. It also makes the Leafs cap situation that much tighter, one would have to think that Liles is a goner now.
might be a good thing for Rielly long haul to spend more time in the minors. I'm a big believer in waiting till they are more than nhl ready if it is possible. Worked for Kadri
The problem is that Morgan Rielly is going to be going back to Moose Jaw where the game plan is to give it to Rielly and get out of the way. There isn't much for him to gain from that, and it could lead to him building some more bad habits. Moose Jaw has made it pretty clear that they aren't trading Rielly either.

With respect to Kadri, being demoted was good for his development because he got to hone his craft in the AHL and learn the defensive game under Dallas Eakins, had he stayed an additional year in London it would have stagnated his development in all likelihood.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:45 pm
by The BBKL Insider
bcool wroteCOLON
Big Fun wroteCOLON
bcool wroteCOLONhmm Ranger to an NHL deal? Gives me another defenceman to play with..
if u have ranger i'm interested.
Paul Ranger is gonna be the player where you break the no trade pact?
maybe

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:48 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Lee wroteCOLONRanger is a free agent, actually. Was not included in roster submission.
So is he eligible for the waiver draft?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:48 pm
by Lee
Yes

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:49 pm
by bma
Lee wroteCOLONRanger is a free agent, actually. Was not included in roster submission.
hmm He's on my excel spreadsheet and my cbs roster?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:49 pm
by anton
there is some alright talent in the waive draft this year. only going to get better in the next month too

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:54 pm
by Nick
bcool wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONRanger is a free agent, actually. Was not included in roster submission.
hmm He's on my excel spreadsheet and my cbs roster?

Unless you dropped him, there is no reason I know of that he'd be a free agent and eligible for waiver draft.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:56 pm
by Lee
So what is the point of roster submission?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:48 pm
by Shep
So that you can look through everybody's roster and find a loophole to draft a stud in the waiver draft that may or may not have been accidentally excluded.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:49 pm
by Lee
Sweet, I'm going to pick up players so that I have 95 and then not include the extra 5 during roster submission. Yay loopholes!

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:53 pm
by kimmer
guys just relax, bcools been bz with his career, and his mind was not all there last season. It happens with most of us.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:54 pm
by Lee
There is also the note from Mik:

"ALL your players need to appear in the roster you submit to keep their rights."

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:55 pm
by MSP4LYFE
I'm with Lee, the rules are very clear about this, and if bcool was over the roster limit as well he is in clear violation of the rules.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:56 pm
by Lee
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONI'm with Lee, the rules are very clear about this, and if bcool was over the roster limit as well he is in clear violation of the rules.
I deleted that, it was 78 last year, not 70.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:02 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Then the case against bcool is alot weaker.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:06 pm
by Lee
I don't see how, the roster submission thread clearly states that players must be submitted to retain their rights. I legally drafted Damon Severson this year because he was not included in roster submission.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:07 pm
by MSP4LYFE
I didn't know about the Severson case, I suppose if there is precedent... Still, it seems really harsh, thankfully this isn't up to me.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:15 pm
by anton
gotta agree with lee. there's no room for cherry picking when and when not to apply rules here.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:44 pm
by Shep
I still don't see the rule that says if they are on the teams CBS page and spreadsheet but not in roster submission that they become waiver draft eligible.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:48 pm
by shooker
Blues GM wroteCOLONI still don't see the rule that says if they are on the teams CBS page and spreadsheet but not in roster submission that they become waiver draft eligible.
I agree. clearly a mistake and in fact Bry instantly knew he owned him. I thought the rule was one of the two, roster submission or cbs? We have had this in the past and as long as they had him on one they were ok.

I don't think anyone would care if he didn't sign with the leafs..