Buds Board Keepers League

MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON

Shoalzie wroteCOLONTo be fair, there will be interleague play all season now that there is an even 15-15 split in the AL and NL...we'll see the NL playing with a DH throughout the season when they're in AL parks. I think we either have to use it for everyone or we don't. However, if we don't use the DH...you're hurting half the league who has a quality DH (Ortiz, Martinez, et al) and if you use pitcher batting stats, you're hurting the other half of the league. We have to have one way or the other.

My vote is that every uses a 9th hitter (DH or UTIL) and we just let pitchers be pitchers. Pitchers only hurt hitting stats unless we're doing roto where it'll all even out in the end. I think most teams are capable of playing one extra hitter every week. This is probably the best argument for roto since weekly, a team might be at a disadvantage because most of their team may not be involved in games with a DH...namely, all the NL teams.

I agree on all points, Scott.

i'm a fan of this too, i'll add it to the rules list.

So, basically you can play your best hitter that isn't one of your other 8 starters? Any position eligible for that 9th spot?

Also, we can probably go with the infielders by their natural position (C, 1B, 2B, 3B and SS) but what about the outfield? Are we going to worry about having to play a LF, CF and RF or just play three OF of any position?

Shoalzie wroteCOLONSo, basically you can play your best hitter that isn't one of your other 8 starters? Any position eligible for that 9th spot?

Also, we can probably go with the infielders by their natural position (C, 1B, 2B, 3B and SS) but what about the outfield? Are we going to worry about having to play a LF, CF and RF or just play three OF of any position?

I posted this in the rules (as you came up with it!), we need 1 IF at each position, 1 C, and 3 OF's

the 9th batter can be a player at any position.

I also posted we need to name 5 starting P's every week

What were your thoughts on relief guys? we obviously need a closer, what about bullpen guys? a team will carry 5-9, and sometimes even more.

Shoalzie wroteCOLONSo, basically you can play your best hitter that isn't one of your other 8 starters? Any position eligible for that 9th spot?

Also, we can probably go with the infielders by their natural position (C, 1B, 2B, 3B and SS) but what about the outfield? Are we going to worry about having to play a LF, CF and RF or just play three OF of any position?

I think it is crucial to have OF designations because of the scarcity of talent at certain OF positions, such as CF. Generalizing all OF under the same slot would significantly devalue the average CF. The primary reason that good center fielders are so valuable is because there are so few of them, it would be like designating 2B and SS as infielders rather than 2B or SS.

Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONI also posted we need to name 5 starting P's every week

What were your thoughts on relief guys? we obviously need a closer, what about bullpen guys? a team will carry 5-9, and sometimes even more.

7 relief pitchers minimum, and a maximum of 8, and consequently 4 bench spots minimum, and a maximum of 5. Just like they do in the majors.

MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON

Shoalzie wroteCOLONSo, basically you can play your best hitter that isn't one of your other 8 starters? Any position eligible for that 9th spot?

Also, we can probably go with the infielders by their natural position (C, 1B, 2B, 3B and SS) but what about the outfield? Are we going to worry about having to play a LF, CF and RF or just play three OF of any position?

I think it is crucial to have OF designations because of the scarcity of talent at certain OF positions, such as CF. Generalizing all OF under the same slot would significantly devalue the average CF. The primary reason that good center fielders are so valuable is because there are so few of them, it would be like designating 2B and SS as infielders rather than 2B or SS.

I can see your point...as long as guys are designated to their proper position or positions, we can probably use the three OF positions.

MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON

Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONI also posted we need to name 5 starting P's every week

What were your thoughts on relief guys? we obviously need a closer, what about bullpen guys? a team will carry 5-9, and sometimes even more.

7 relief pitchers minimum, and a maximum of 8, and consequently 4 bench spots minimum, and a maximum of 5. Just like they do in the majors.

If think 7 relievers each week makes sense (12 man pitching staffs)...don't have to be guys defined by roles (ie--closer, 8th inning/setup man, middle relief, long relief). You can't use another starting pitcher at that spot but some times a long reliever will get a spot start.

For your bench, that leaves 4 spots...make that a requirement to be all position players. You basically have 5 guys to choose from for your DH. Make it so you have to carry a second catcher but the rest of your bench can be whatever.

I'll add these to the rules (rules can always be adjusted at times/until we finalize everything)

Shoalzie, could you look into the cost of a baseball league on CBS? let me know how much this will cost to get set up and running?

Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLONShoalzie, could you look into the cost of a baseball league on CBS? let me know how much this will cost to get set up and running?

I looked into it over the weekend but you can't sign up for anything yet.

What does it usually cost to run the BBKL?

The BBKL is usually 200-300$ i believe, so i'd figure baseball would be similar, maybe even more because of it's popularity south of our border lol

I'm pretty sure the cost for CBS baseball is ~$180 and includes a bunch of online radio games for the members of the league and some other stat-tracking stuff.

I thought it was $100

Its 179.99

http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseba ... mmissioner

In regards to the league rules/ formatting. I like the idea of the 25 man roster and sticking to outfield eligibility i.e. a CF must be a CF not just 3 OF as Kareem is right it would water down the value of several players. I also think its probably easiest to just assign a 9th batter as the DH and ignore the NL pitcher-batting rule as its kind of a silly rule to have two separate rules for the two conferences even in the MLB in my opinion. Where I disagree with Kareem is in choosing a roto format, I like the H2H format better myself, as the better team is the team that wins consistently week in week out, sure there are the odd exceptions but there is a reason why teams play the games, looking better on paper or acquiring better stats over the course of a full season is nice, but luck and randomness play important roles in real life. Roto seems to me to water down the real-life simulation we all are seeking in the league in my opinion.

180 bucks isn't bad, and i think the plan is to run a 40 man roster josh, where you start 1 guy at each field position + 1 DH = 9 players.

We'll also be starting 12 pitchers weekly, so a total of 21 players starting weekly. We will be carrying a 40 man roster and you'll be able to call up and send down those guys every week. However, i'm sure we'll come up with a waiver rule like we have in hockey.


Also - i'm a fan of h2h leagues, but i think this is something we take to a vote. Roto vs h2h, see where everyone stands.

Sensfanjosh wroteCOLONIts 179.99

http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseba ... mmissioner

If it's anything like the hockey product we've bought ours on sale every year for a hundred so, it's about double that sticker.

With respect to the schedule, I strongly suggest no inter-league games. For one, it makes schedule making more difficult, but more importantly inter-league games ruin a fair schedule, since no team can play every team from the opposing league which can severely impact the standings. It is also important to consider that we have a limited number of weeks to work with, so it is crucial that we get as many weeks in as possible against division rivals, and teams within the same league. This is not hockey, the top team in each division makes the post-season, not the top X amount of teams, therefore a balanced schedule is a MUST.

Weren't we talking about roto all season?

The 2013 MLB schedule is around 26 weeks (give or take based on the All-Star break)...so maybe 25 if you combine the shortened week of the All-Star game with the following week.

For the postseason, let's say 2 weeks for the "World Series", 1 for the "LCS", 1 for the "Divisional Round", and a seperate week for the "Wild Card"...5 weeks for the postseason. That leaves 21 (or 20) weeks. 14 games against the rest of your "league", a second set of games against your own "division" (4 weeks), that leaves 2 or 3 wild card weeks...can be either interleague or just more games within the league.

If we do interleague, we should have a rotation of opponents...you play one team from each of the three divisions and you rotate opponents every 5 seasons.

Shoalzie wroteCOLONWeren't we talking about roto all season?

Yes, but in the worst case scenario that we have to do H2H, I think it is important not to schedule inter-league games.

Shoalzie wroteCOLONFor the postseason, let's say 2 weeks for the "World Series", 1 for the "LCS", 1 for the "Divisional Round", and a seperate week for the "Wild Card"...5 weeks for the postseason. That leaves 21 (or 20) weeks. 14 games against the rest of your "league", a second set of games against your own "division" (4 weeks), that leaves 2 or 3 wild card weeks...can be either interleague or just more games within the league.

If we do interleague, we should have a rotation of opponents...you play one team from each of the three divisions and you rotate opponents every 5 seasons.

It should be additional intra-league games, so as to not unfairly impact the wild card race.