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Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:50 pm
by Jordan (VGK)
I’d just argue my infraction occurred because I made the drop after lock. Allowing teams to drop after the claim is processed should be a level of leeway we allow for GMs. I think this is trending towards “you don’t have a bench spot open to make the claim” so demote/waive someone before you make the claim. Eliminating tedious admin actions to promote leeway where teams aren’t getting an advantage is probably in everyone’s best interest.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:57 pm
by kyuss
Personally I felt both fines assessed were harsh.

The one to Anaheim in particular was gross imho and just a way to prevent more fight back from GMs.
And that's from Matthew himself. We are to the point where a CC member would rather losing a 3rd than having GMs throwing more (baseless) conspiracy allegations at the CC, pretty sad.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:03 pm
by Jordan (VGK)
Agreed. Seems like a precedent has been set of fines for ticky tacky shit that just isn’t fun. Matthews trade was definitively a grey area, but nixing the waiver claim & fining him when the trade was edited like 30 minutes later? Eventually this precedent will have to be reset.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:08 pm
by Matthew
Jordan (VGK) wroteCOLONAgreed. Seems like a precedent has been set of fines for ticky tacky shit that just isn’t fun. Matthews trade was definitively a grey area, but nixing the waiver claim & fining him when the trade was edited like 30 minutes later? Eventually this precedent will have to be reset.
Yes, but we can't reset it mid-season when similar things have been fined a 3rd all ready in season. It will need to be well-written in off season.

I made a mistake. It cost me. I won't do it again.

I'm okay with this and ready to move on.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:09 pm
by Jordan (VGK)
Gonna go in a circle and say the precedent is for 50 contracts and not 90 players so we are setting a new one. But this is all just silly lol

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:15 pm
by Matthew
Anyway, u get ruhwedel out of this Jordan so u should make the claim on ft

I released him.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:18 pm
by Jordan (VGK)
Go claim Wedgewood and we’ll trade each other lol

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:26 pm
by Chuck Norris
How did Vegas beat me for Ruhwedel?

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:28 pm
by Matthew
Chuck Norris wroteCOLONHow did Vegas beat me for Ruhwedel?
A previous claim of his was rejected. He lost that player (wedgewood), and was fined. However he re-gained his previous waiver pick position, which was quite high.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:29 pm
by Chuck Norris
Ah that makes sense then. Thanks.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:33 pm
by Jordan (VGK)
He should still be MTLs I claimed Czarnik too

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:35 pm
by Matthew
Oh okay. Good on you for being honest. Then he would go to Montreal.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:40 pm
by Sensfanjosh
If nothing else all these fines will speed up the draft. Somewhere Lee is smiling

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:41 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
Jordan (VGK) wroteCOLONGonna go in a circle and say the precedent is for 50 contracts and not 90 players so we are setting a new one. But this is all just silly lol
Can you honestly tell me you have 40+ players not on a contract worth keeping? Clean up your roster and this is a non issue.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:42 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
Matthew wroteCOLONOh okay. Good on you for being honest. Then he would go to Montreal.
Thanks for saying this. Ya he’ll go to chuck then!

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:47 pm
by Jordan (VGK)
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
Jordan (VGK) wroteCOLONGonna go in a circle and say the precedent is for 50 contracts and not 90 players so we are setting a new one. But this is all just silly lol
Can you honestly tell me you have 40+ players not on a contract worth keeping? Clean up your roster and this is a non issue.
You’re right but that’s a bad argument. If that’s the logic why have a 90 limit if no one could possibly have that many players worth keeping.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:48 pm
by Matthew
I have the 90 best assets in the league, so I don't know what any of you are talking about.

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:50 pm
by KapG
Jordan (VGK) wroteCOLON
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON
Jordan (VGK) wroteCOLONGonna go in a circle and say the precedent is for 50 contracts and not 90 players so we are setting a new one. But this is all just silly lol
Can you honestly tell me you have 40+ players not on a contract worth keeping? Clean up your roster and this is a non issue.
You’re right but that’s a bad argument. If that’s the logic why have a 90 limit if no one could possibly have that many players worth keeping.
Mik might lol

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:00 pm
by Sensfanjosh
kyuss wroteCOLONPersonally I felt both fines assessed were harsh.

The one to Anaheim in particular was gross imho and just a way to prevent more fight back from GMs.
And that's from Matthew himself. We are to the point where a CC member would rather losing a 3rd than having GMs throwing more (baseless) conspiracy allegations at the CC, pretty sad.
This is a good point. But if no one thinks our league penalties are fair why are we still handing them out? The CC is still ultimately deciding this

Re: League Announcements Discussion

PostedCOLON Mon Feb 15, 2021 3:20 pm
by Bruyns
We need to move away from 3rds I agree, the mindset of I paid that fine so others should as well is the culprit here.

It will need to be on the agenda for the offseason. I could see a 5th or 6th as sufficient. Also CC is talking about maybe going from 7 to 5. Mik has already stepped down, but is continuing to vote until replaced and Matthew has expressed interest in stepping down.

Any GMs who want to be a part of CC feel free to speak up as it's not a very glamourous position so it's tough to get GMs to participate and make decisions.