Buds Board Keepers League

anton wroteCOLONthe most aggravating thing are the comments from players just towing Fehr's line:

@ChrisKuc: #Blackhawks' Toews on NHL's offer: "There’s no real effort there. It’s just a ploy to kind of sway the positive light back in their favor".

There's no real effort? and the PA has made a concerted effort? Really? Every time these guys post something on twitter, they look more and more foolish and uneducated. Where do the players get the idea that the league has to come to them? Are they not part of this process too? For a bunch of millionaires who "just want to play" there seems to be very little effort coming from their end to do ANYTHING.

bills09 wroteCOLONRumored PA offer tomorrow.

Per Ron Fournier on 98,5FM in Montreal who takes the info from Martin Maguire who is covering the PA meeting...

- Counter-offer tomorrow is official.
- Thought to be 52-48, 51-49, 50-50, 50-50, 50-50, 50-50
- Players reject the "Make Whole" thing, want full contract value paid.
- Players want HRR as it was in last CBA

I think the NHL would accept those HRR terms but if the PA wants contract limits to not change the NHL will not accept that offer.

Tony wroteCOLON^^^

like what I see there ... agree on contract limits

Delay (beyond October 25) will necessarily leave us with an abbreviated season and will require the cancellation of signature NHL events. Failure to reach a prompt agreement will also have other significant and detrimental impacts on our fans, the game, our Clubs, our business and the communities in which we play. All of this will obviously necessitate changes to this offer in the event we are unsuccessful in saving a full season.

MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONAlso included in the league's proposal is the elimination of the Re-Entry Waiver system. If applied, and I have no reason to believe that it won't be, does that mean that any player who's salary was cut in half prior to the impending CBA must have it returned to it's original amount, or is that provision not retroactive?

MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON

Tony wroteCOLON^^^

like what I see there ... agree on contract limits

I think if the players want to avoid a roll-back they will have to make an additional concession somewhere, and it's not going to be the UFA age. I imagine contract limits will be that concession as you alluded too, perhaps not 5 years, but maybe 7 or 8?

Shep wroteCOLONWith the NFL, my interest in the NHL is slim to none.

It'll change once something concrete happens, but at this point, fuck the NHL and everything with it.

Shep wroteCOLONWith the NFL, my interest in the NHL is slim to none.

It'll change once something concrete happens, but at this point, fuck the NHL and everything with it.

kyuss wroteCOLON

Shep wroteCOLONWith the NFL, my interest in the NHL is slim to none.

It'll change once something concrete happens, but at this point, fuck the NHL and everything with it.

note that BBKL and other hockey pools go with it

@FriedgeHNIC: Fan named Barry Murphy told Bettman that as a fan he feels disrespected and neglected...what are you going to do show us you care about us?

@FriedgeHNIC: Bettman: we're "going to get a deal done." Was an interesting, respectful exchange