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Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:30 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Raptactics wroteCOLONLOL - actually, I don't need big names, I need 15 minutes. Also, I'm confident in the group I have and I don't think I'll need to add a piece at all.
We all are likely going to need that piece, it's far too close to label anyone a clear cut favorite, especially when you take the inevitable injury bug into account.

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:39 pm
by bills09
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Raptactics wroteCOLONI disagree with hockey.. at the beginning of any season there are around 10-15 legit teams who could feasibly win.. especially with the salary cap!

This past year I would've said WSH, NJD, PHI, CGY (I picked them at the start of the year), PIT, DET, SJS, CHI, BOS.. I felt they all had consideration to begin the year.
So 9-10 teams? I would argue there are 9-10 teams with the same chance as the above, obviously with differing odds, not unlike the real NHL...

1. New Jersey
2. Pittsburgh
3. Phildelphia
4. Florida
5. Washington
6. Boston
7. Los Angeles
8. Hartford
9. St. Louis
10. Vancouver
11. Anaheim (arguably)
12. Calgary (arguably)

Like I said above, the dominance of certain teams is being HEAVILY overstated in this league, I much prefer the current format, over your typical H2H league in which any of the 30 teams can win it all, was never a fan of that, it's unrealistic, I am very happy with how this league has turned out personally.
Dont forget San Jose!

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:41 pm
by MSP4LYFE
bills09 wroteCOLONDont forget San Jose!
Wow...I don't know why, but it seems like the team I consistently forget about is SJS...No idea why. Chi deserves mention as well, IMO.

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:55 pm
by bills09
Colorado is underrated imo as well

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:52 pm
by MSP4LYFE
bills09 wroteCOLONColorado is underrated imo as well
Further proving my point.

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:07 pm
by Mash
The more teams with potential to beat shiv the happier i become :) lol

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:18 am
by inferno31
bills09 wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
Raptactics wroteCOLONI disagree with hockey.. at the beginning of any season there are around 10-15 legit teams who could feasibly win.. especially with the salary cap!

This past year I would've said WSH, NJD, PHI, CGY (I picked them at the start of the year), PIT, DET, SJS, CHI, BOS.. I felt they all had consideration to begin the year.
So 9-10 teams? I would argue there are 9-10 teams with the same chance as the above, obviously with differing odds, not unlike the real NHL...

1. New Jersey
2. Pittsburgh
3. Phildelphia
4. Florida
5. Washington
6. Boston
7. Los Angeles
8. Hartford
9. St. Louis
10. Vancouver
11. Anaheim (arguably)
12. Calgary (arguably)

Like I said above, the dominance of certain teams is being HEAVILY overstated in this league, I much prefer the current format, over your typical H2H league in which any of the 30 teams can win it all, was never a fan of that, it's unrealistic, I am very happy with how this league has turned out personally.
Dont forget San Jose!
Thank you. Felt a little slighted there for a second.

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:50 am
by Robin Hood
Mashley93 wroteCOLONThe more teams with potential to beat shiv the happier i become :) lol
to be honest this started as me just shit talking. i personally think i can easily get screwed this season:

1) injuries
2) howard sucking
3) injuries
4) lack of prospects/picks to replace injuries

i can easily lose. but you know what they say: the right jockey can make any horse win ;).

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:41 am
by jcarton
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Mashley93 wroteCOLONThe more teams with potential to beat shiv the happier i become :) lol
to be honest this started as me just shit talking. i personally think i can easily get screwed this season:

1) injuries
2) howard sucking
3) injuries
4) lack of prospects/picks to replace injuries

i can easily lose. but you know what they say: the right jockey can make any horse win ;).
You will be out first round shiv, that is if you make it ;)

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:41 am
by kyuss
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON Like I said above, the dominance of certain teams is being HEAVILY overstated in this league, I much prefer the current format, over your typical H2H league in which any of the 30 teams can win it all, was never a fan of that, it's unrealistic,

am i missing something here?

isn't this league still h2h?

I am very happy with how this league has turned out personally.


yet you threaten to quit as soon as UFA is talked about , lol.

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:54 am
by MSP4LYFE
kyuss wroteCOLONisn't this league still h2h?
Yes, but it's not your typical H2H league...God damnit Kyuss, read! Most H2H leagues have random winners, and its almost entirely based on luck, there are so many different cats in this league that upsets almost NEVER happen.
kyuss wroteCOLONyet you threaten to quit as soon as UFA is talked about , lol.
1. It's not a threat, I'm gone if we go to UFA, and so will ALOT of GM's...

2. UFA changes the entire core structure of this league, the core that I like... What is so difficult to understand about that? It's pretty straight forward.

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:15 pm
by kyuss
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLONisn't this league still h2h?
Yes, but it's not your typical H2H league...God damnit Kyuss, read! Most H2H leagues have random winners, and its almost entirely based on luck, there are so many different cats in this league that upsets almost NEVER happen.
Relax, i thought i missed something new about the format or the scoring system.
Anyway, aside from the SHTOI stat, i don't think these stats are what makes upsets unlikely (probably still more possible than you seem to think though), it's more like the unbalance in the league.. there are teams that are so much better than others that random winners become unlikely. That's probably the result of inevitably having some bad GMs out fo the 30 starting ones in a league based on trades where trades were never vetoed.


MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON 1. It's not a threat, I'm gone if we go to UFA, and so will ALOT of GM's...

2. UFA changes the entire core structure of this league, the core that I like... What is so difficult to understand about that? It's pretty straight forward.
we should keep this to the other thread i guess, hopefully i'll have the time to reply there soon.

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:19 pm
by Mash
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLONisn't this league still h2h?
Yes, but it's not your typical H2H league...God damnit Kyuss, read! Most H2H leagues have random winners, and its almost entirely based on luck, there are so many different cats in this league that upsets almost NEVER happen.
kyuss wroteCOLONyet you threaten to quit as soon as UFA is talked about , lol.
1. It's not a threat, I'm gone if we go to UFA, and so will ALOT of GM's...

2. UFA changes the entire core structure of this league, the core that I like... What is so difficult to understand about that? It's pretty straight forward.
I agree with Kareem, I like the way this is run this way, if it switched to UFA...peace!

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:43 pm
by MSP4LYFE
kyuss wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLONisn't this league still h2h?
Yes, but it's not your typical H2H league...God damnit Kyuss, read! Most H2H leagues have random winners, and its almost entirely based on luck, there are so many different cats in this league that upsets almost NEVER happen.
Relax, i thought i missed something new about the format or the scoring system.
Anyway, aside from the SHTOI stat, i don't think these stats are what makes upsets unlikely (probably still more possible than you seem to think though), it's more like the unbalance in the league.. there are teams that are so much better than others that random winners become unlikely. That's probably the result of inevitably having some bad GMs out fo the 30 starting ones in a league based on trades where trades were never vetoed.
SHTOI is just one stat, and fairly well balanced league wide, the reason upsets are so unlikely is the sheer number of detailed stats, it's not like most leagues were if your offense gets hot and you score a ton you win. In this league you need to win the goaltending battle, offensive battle, and periphery war. Much more often than not it leads to straight forward contests. Now that's not to say upsets don't happen they do, but your not going to see a low seeded team beat a New Jersey very often, if at all.

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:47 pm
by Nick
ye... last year the upsets were due to injuries... and the sharks sucking at a VERY bad time for Neel...


NJD went undefeated (though I believe he was tied @ least once?)
LAK lost 2 or 3 times
BOS didn't lose very much either (but kyle is soft spoken so its easy to forget he has a strong team)


PHX never won a week...


aahahahhaha

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:56 pm
by Mash
facey wroteCOLONye... last year the upsets were due to injuries... and the sharks sucking at a VERY bad time for Neel...


NJD went undefeated (though I believe he was tied @ least once?)
LAK lost 2 or 3 times
BOS didn't lose very much either (but kyle is soft spoken so its easy to forget he has a strong team)


PHX never won a week...


aahahahhaha


ahahaha lets all laugh it up chuckles ill just go cry in a corner or something....asshole. ahahahahaha

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:06 pm
by MSP4LYFE
NJD tied twice, and never lost, of course they never faced the Washington Capitals, so it's easy to see why they went undefeated...

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:11 pm
by Nick
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONNJD tied twice, and never lost, of course they never faced the Washington Capitals, so it's easy to see why they went undefeated...

oh my bad, cause i forgot you won every week.

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:11 pm
by bills09
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONNJD tied twice, and never lost, of course they never faced the Washington Capitals, so it's easy to see why they went undefeated...
He barely beat me. i lost by +/- or something stupid IIRC

Re: Can't Touch This

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:11 pm
by Scott
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONNJD tied twice, and never lost, of course they never faced the Washington Capitals, so it's easy to see why they went undefeated...
lol..

I guess we'l see what happens this year when we play buddy.. just no boo-hoo'n when I smoke ya ;)