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Re: NYI - PIT (an actual deal)

PostedCOLON Wed May 26, 2010 3:06 pm
by Scott
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
mr. bruin wroteCOLONPS..Wow, Stastny, Park and Staal are beasts in this league...when it comes to covering ALL cats...damn...
I genuinely believe Kadri is going to be that type of player down the road, he can score, kill penalties, win draws, and plays on the edge meaning a ton of pims. Kassian is going to have immense H2H value once he makes the jump as well.
Kill penalties? since when?

Also, I'd be shocked if Kadri remains a center for his career, I really would.. he's below average defensively which will be key playing a top 6 role where the wing is more forgiving and he's not that spectacular in on the dot. I'd put my money on him moving to the wing eventually.

Re: NYI - PIT (an actual deal)

PostedCOLON Wed May 26, 2010 3:08 pm
by MSP4LYFE
SuperMario wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONWashington Capitals - 3549 FOW (not including Kadri)
Pittsburgh Penguins - 4081 FOW (with 6 centers)
New Jersey Devils - 3327 FOW
Vancouver Canucks - 3628 FOW (8 centers)
Boston Bruins - 4286 FOW (7 centers)

In other words, it's fucking impossible to project who is going to lead FOW this season, but from the onset it looks like myself, shiv and mr. bruin will lead the pack.
i get 4000 + with 5 centers. weights the 6th center and he had like 50 fow. and savard was out for half the season ;). its because of backes, ott and giroux ;). but i still like washingtons centers the best.
Yes you are correct, but I fully expect a decrease in FOW from Backes, as well as a MASSIVE increase in FOW from Stamkos (400-500), and about 300 FOW from Kadri.

Re: NYI - PIT (an actual deal)

PostedCOLON Wed May 26, 2010 3:08 pm
by Nick
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
mr. bruin wroteCOLONPS..Wow, Stastny, Park and Staal are beasts in this league...when it comes to covering ALL cats...damn...
I genuinely believe Kadri is going to be that type of player down the road, he can score, kill penalties, win draws, and plays on the edge meaning a ton of pims. Kassian is going to have immense H2H value once he makes the jump as well.

I got a reading on my "over-anticipating prospects" meter.....

FOW is a changing stats year to year... if FO% was a stat i'd own....but my 2nd line centres don't get enough draws :(

the trick for winning a shit load of faceoffs is being the only good C on your team....

stastny is the only guy in COL who was ready last year... duchene and o'reily should take more of the load
crosby did all the offensive zone draws for the penguins... why? cause malkin was like 40%... staal did the defnesive....
park as a winger is a joke... taking 1000 faceoffs = Centre....in a league where we limit # of centre spots due to this category (and having more then 4C is frankly unrealistic)

i get fucked because pavelski plays on the best FO team in the NHL, Jumbo, Marleau, Pavelski, Nichol, Malhotra... :(
the flyers are not that far behind: Richards, Carter, Briere, Grioux, Lapierre, etc....

meaning the centres are not over worked, meaning less faceoff wins :(

sutter is fakked behind staal and faceoff king brindy...

however things change lots in this category year to year...


sorry for long pointless post.

Re: NYI - PIT (an actual deal)

PostedCOLON Wed May 26, 2010 3:09 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Raptactics wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
mr. bruin wroteCOLONPS..Wow, Stastny, Park and Staal are beasts in this league...when it comes to covering ALL cats...damn...
I genuinely believe Kadri is going to be that type of player down the road, he can score, kill penalties, win draws, and plays on the edge meaning a ton of pims. Kassian is going to have immense H2H value once he makes the jump as well.
Kill penalties? since when?

Also, I'd be shocked if Kadri remains a center for his career, I really would.. he's below average defensively which will be key playing a top 6 role where the wing is more forgiving and he's not that spectacular in on the dot. I'd put my money on him moving to the wing eventually.
He's been on the top PK unit for London two straight seasons now...

Re: NYI - PIT (an actual deal)

PostedCOLON Wed May 26, 2010 3:10 pm
by Nick
if kadri comes in as a C he's a C...LOL... enough listing center-men as wingers... fak

Re: NYI - PIT (an actual deal)

PostedCOLON Wed May 26, 2010 3:12 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Raptactics wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
mr. bruin wroteCOLONPS..Wow, Stastny, Park and Staal are beasts in this league...when it comes to covering ALL cats...damn...
I genuinely believe Kadri is going to be that type of player down the road, he can score, kill penalties, win draws, and plays on the edge meaning a ton of pims. Kassian is going to have immense H2H value once he makes the jump as well.
Kill penalties? since when?

Also, I'd be shocked if Kadri remains a center for his career, I really would.. he's below average defensively which will be key playing a top 6 role where the wing is more forgiving and he's not that spectacular in on the dot. I'd put my money on him moving to the wing eventually.
The Leafs won't move him to the wing long term...Thats for certain. A center is far more valuable than a winger, for that reason alone they will keep him there. Furthermore, he is a great apsser in the middle, and over 45% on the dot in his career in the OHL, and among the very best in the WJC. He's also put on a ton of weight, plays with an edge and isn't bad defensively at all. His problem is that he tends to overhandle the puck, and thus turn it over, but without the puck he is FAR from a liability, in fact he is a plus because of his ability to start the counter attack.

Re: NYI - PIT (an actual deal)

PostedCOLON Wed May 26, 2010 3:15 pm
by MSP4LYFE
facey wroteCOLON
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
mr. bruin wroteCOLONPS..Wow, Stastny, Park and Staal are beasts in this league...when it comes to covering ALL cats...damn...
I genuinely believe Kadri is going to be that type of player down the road, he can score, kill penalties, win draws, and plays on the edge meaning a ton of pims. Kassian is going to have immense H2H value once he makes the jump as well.

I got a reading on my "over-anticipating prospects" meter.....

FOW is a changing stats year to year... if FO% was a stat i'd own....but my 2nd line centres don't get enough draws :(

the trick for winning a shit load of faceoffs is being the only good C on your team....

stastny is the only guy in COL who was ready last year... duchene and o'reily should take more of the load
crosby did all the offensive zone draws for the penguins... why? cause malkin was like 40%... staal did the defnesive....
park as a winger is a joke... taking 1000 faceoffs = Centre....in a league where we limit # of centre spots due to this category (and having more then 4C is frankly unrealistic)

i get fucked because pavelski plays on the best FO team in the NHL, Jumbo, Marleau, Pavelski, Nichol, Malhotra... :(
the flyers are not that far behind: Richards, Carter, Briere, Grioux, Lapierre, etc....

meaning the centres are not over worked, meaning less faceoff wins :(

sutter is fakked behind staal and faceoff king brindy...

however things change lots in this category year to year...


sorry for long pointless post.
I love how you started your post with, "I got a reading on my "over-anticipating prospects" meter....." and then went on a long and unrelated rant, lol.

Re: NYI - PIT (an actual deal)

PostedCOLON Wed May 26, 2010 4:03 pm
by Tony
mr. bruin wroteCOLON
Nighthock wroteCOLONI think I overpaid, sure - but I want to get better sooner rather than later. Like I said, I HATE losing Ellis but whatever ... If this isn't Shiv I probably don't make this deal.
So does this mean he sweet talked you extra fine or hes your buddy and you needed to help him out ;)
No, it's because he at least spoons me after he rapes me ...