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Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:46 pm
by MSP4LYFE
The stipulation is illegal, there is always the threat of a gentleman's agreement falling by the wayside.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:48 pm
by Lee
And there are consequences when such agreements fall by the wayside. We'll both survive without trading with each other.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:54 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Kezia wroteCOLONAnd there are consequences when such agreements fall by the wayside. We'll both survive without trading with each other.
It is unwise to cut out a trading partner completely. Especially a team with as many assets as TB. There are several managers I deplore in BBKL, however I continue to do business with them because it is mutually beneficial to do so. The wiser approach (IMO) would be to cut out the potential for gentleman agreement's with TB if you feel wronged. Cutting TBL out completely hurts you as much as it hurts him...
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:07 pm
by Mike
Kezia wroteCOLONAnd there are consequences when such agreements fall by the wayside. We'll both survive without trading with each other.
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONIt is unwise to cut out a trading partner completely. Especially a team with as many assets as TB. There are several managers I deplore in BBKL, however I continue to do business with them because it is mutually beneficial to do so. The wiser approach (IMO) would be to cut out the potential for gentleman agreement's with TB if you feel wronged. Cutting TBL out completely hurts you as much as it hurts him...
Lee, didn't you back out of a deal with Kareem after it was agreed to and posted just a few days ago?
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:08 pm
by MSP4LYFE
LOL, I forgot about that.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:21 pm
by Lee
Never told Kareem to post it. Making an offer and confirming a trade are 2 different beasts.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:29 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Kezia wroteCOLONNever told Kareem to post it. Making an offer and confirming a trade are 2 different beasts.
It is more complicated than that, we had agreed to a deal centered around Hoffman + Leivo for Hecht, you even agreed to the deal if Ruutu was added,
7/15/2011 4:47:29 PM Lee kareem alright ill do your offer leivo hoffman and jarkko
However I had dealt Ruutu moments earlier, so we instead settled on Kale Kessy, and since the earlier deal (with Ruutu) was confirmed I assumed this one was too. But unbeknownst to me we were not even close, and you instead shopped the offer to Frank as I was typing the deal out.
There was definitely some miscommunication in hindsight, but don't play it off as if you just made me an offer, and I assumed it was a done deal...
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:36 pm
by Lee
Yeah I agreed to the deal with Jarkko then checked the forums and saw your other trade. We talked for a bit and said I'd be interested in Kessy. I wasn't really feeling that deal so I asked around on MSN. Started talking to Frank, Frank offered/I asked for McKegg and some other stuff, I checked the forums again and saw that you post the offer I made you. I deleted that as it wasn't a confirmed offer, then finished the deal with Frank.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:44 pm
by Lee
BTW, with TSN now reporting it, any thought of doubt about atleast an attempted comeback should be put to rest:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=372269
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:17 pm
by anton
Kezia wroteCOLONI know that *some* people would do it just to be a dick.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:33 pm
by Nick
Lee - there was no condition at all or ever even mentioned regarding me not trading the pick.
- I remember u wanting to trade 4th and I said go fuck yourself I want 1st, won't pick miele and will pick Jagr. Wtf do u want? A no trade clause?
No, simple shit is that I did well towards you passing on the miele protection.
However if you'd like to trade embargo me I don't think I'll even notice, so please go right ahead.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:35 pm
by Arian The Insider
college free agents are overrated as hell anyways
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:00 pm
by Lee
I never said that you couldn't trade the pick. But one would assume that a clause of " this pick cannot be used to select anyone other that Jagr" would move forward.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:43 am
by Nick
That wasn't the 'agreement' Lee. I tried giving u the not 1-2 guys clause and you sent a list of 7guys or something, I called that stupid and we came out with the 1st overall waiver and I'd pick Jagr -- and I was going to - had written it in on my teampage and cap calculation -- in these trade talks both Shep and I referred to the pick as Jagr.
Anyways, like with the waiver draft compensation picks, you seem to be reading into the situation to the Max way it benefits you.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:53 am
by Scott
Who gives a fuck
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:05 pm
by Lee
And you seem to be ignoring rules already written into the CBA and agreements that we had in place. It's fine, lesson learned.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:49 pm
by Nick
Dude, it's for new gm, not some shitty gm who managed their team to last place. But don't fret, we're talking about the waiver draft in the cc, could be a slight change coming.
Regarding the trade - you're mixing in trade talk and things u asked for with what was agreed upon - and given what the pick has been traded for it's most likely Jagr... And if it's not... Then you just got a first power play unit, elite proven scorer with the #2. Not something to complain about.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:53 pm
by MSP4LYFE
facey wroteCOLONBut don't fret, we're talking about the waiver draft in the cc, could be a slight change coming.
LOL, I like that.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:22 pm
by Shep
This is still going on?
Jeez Lee, obviously I'm taking Jagr. Relax.
Re: 2nd + 3rd + 4th overall in the waiver draft available.
PostedCOLON Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:33 pm
by Arian The Insider
Fuck it i'm taking miele. I can't believe there was all this bickering over the fucking waiver draft.. come on lol.