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Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:33 am
by KapG
I dont think ur a bad guy.

Ur just offering on two players i dont even want to trade.

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:35 am
by The BBKL Insider
Isn't one of them being offered in the title?

Lol

I love a good old fashion sat night debate

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:41 am
by KapG
Yes steve, thats why i said two!

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:59 am
by KapG
talbot and moulson

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... p/scoring?

kreider

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... p/scoring?

filpulla vs simmonds

http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... p/scoring?

kreider i couldnt add with another winger on my llaptoip so he is by himself.

from what im looking at, I lose most aspects of that trade minus picking up like 300 fow for this season. Who knows how many he takes next year too? Filps never put up over 500 fow.

like i said, easy.

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:07 am
by Bruyns
ITT: Filpulla is being overrated and simmonds is being underrated.

I'm on the side of easy no

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:11 am
by KapG
this isn't to start any more drama, I just wanted to post the stats since the people saying this was a yes for me disappeared when I asked for the stat breakdown that shows this was a smart move for me to make.

all that stuff above says otherwise.

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:22 am
by Robin Hood
KapG wroteCOLONthis isn't to start any more drama, I just wanted to post the stats since the people saying this was a yes for me disappeared when I asked for the stat breakdown that shows this was a smart move for me to make.

all that stuff above says otherwise.
I ignored your post right now to avoid a lengthy argument.

But since you're insisting. Your breakdown does not account for relative value. If you pull up straight stat compares, a D will always beat a F in Blocked Shots for example. Each position has value. A Top FOW C has a lot of value for that reason. E.g. pull up the same comparison with Mikko and Simmonds. Mikko's numbers are almost identical/very close to Filp's. But Mikko is worth Simmonds + for sure.

Anyways, I don't want to argue lol. It's Sunday morning! Super Bowl Sunday morning at that. And the Leafs dominated the Sens last night.

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:26 am
by KapG
what break down? I just posted our scoring. On my laptop I cant put two wingers together to compare so had to go with c and a w. Heck, if I could have i woulda put all the players together on one list. You want to do that for me? Any way you cut it you smash me in value and stats in that trade. You just forget im not one of those youngbloods you can take advantage of anymore.

The only cat that filp has over simmonds is fow. But simmonds beats him in nearly every other categories.

Filps also never been above 500 FOW in a year iirc. Good chance this is an annomally.

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:28 am
by Robin Hood
KapG wroteCOLONwhat break down? I just posted our scoring. On my laptop I cant put two wingers together to compare so had to go with c and a w. Heck, if I could have i woulda put all the players together on one list. You want to do that for me? Any way you cut it you smash me in value and stats in that trade. You just forget im not one of those youngbloods you can take advantage of anymore.

The only cat that filp has over simmonds is fow. But simmonds beats him in nearly every other categories.

Filps also never been above 500 FOW in a year iirc. Good chance this is an annomally.
SuperMario wroteCOLONYour breakdown does not account for relative value. If you pull up straight stat compares, a D will always beat a F in Blocked Shots for example. Each position has value. A Top FOW C has a lot of value for that reason. E.g. pull up the same comparison with Mikko and Simmonds. Mikko's numbers are almost identical/very close to Filp's. But Mikko is worth Simmonds + for sure

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:30 am
by KapG
mikku > filp and its not even close.

just because someone takes a few faceoffs doesn't mean they are all of a suddent worth an arm and a leg.

Also, mikku has regularly put up over 700 FOW in a season (prorated). Filps never been north of 500 until this year.

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:32 am
by KapG
mikku has also regularly put up big shtoi numbers. Something filps never done.

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:33 am
by Robin Hood
KapG wroteCOLONjust because someone takes a few faceoffs doesn't mean they are all of a suddent worth an arm and a leg.
Lol Filp also has 40 points and 47 SHTOI (of which Simmonds has none).

Anyways, I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE.

Hi, Kyle. Excited about the Super Bowl?

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:36 am
by KapG
yah simmonds gets me way more hits and pims though which make up for the lack of shtoi and faceoffs.

good times.


anyways ... super bowl? Im not very excited no, my packers are gone. I also work tonight 1500-2330 lol. It's "security" though which involved me chillin in my car listening to sirius. So at least I get to listen to the game.

Dont have a horse though in the race

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:40 am
by Robin Hood
I'd like to see Peyton win another one to cement his legacy. It's gotta be one of the best match-ups though. Best offencee vs best defence. I'm not sure how it'll go tbh. If Wilson can find a way to put up some offence (25 ish), Seahawks can contain Peyton. But given how much time Peyton has had to study the Seahawks D, no chance they lose if Wilson can't put up some offense. Peyton would have to have a terrible game for that to happen

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:50 pm
by Mike

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:09 pm
by KapG
Appreciate the offer mike. I prefer the offensive upside of krider though and his position on the depth chart onnthe rangers.

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:10 pm
by Mike
*nods

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:22 pm
by anton
you can add to him and get o'reilly

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:12 pm
by KapG
anton wroteCOLONyou can add to him and get o'reilly
I understand you asking for an add but its not something i want to do atm.

Re: kreider for a young centre

PostedCOLON Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:05 pm
by The BBKL Insider
man i'd be all over a reasonable add for ROR

love me some ROR