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Re: NHL Transactions- Lashoff to TOR/Kariya not playing in 1

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:16 pm
by Nick
bills09 wroteCOLONLeafs sign Clark Macarthur 1 year 1.1M
way way way, like 64% better, then the 2.4M arb result

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:29 pm
by The BBKL Insider
good signing,

however sadly enough he becomes our 2nd line LW'er

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:09 pm
by Nick
sgupca wroteCOLONgood signing,

however sadly enough he becomes our 2nd line LW'er

Not sure how you figure that. we have 4 wingers who are better then him + kadri/grabo

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:12 pm
by The BBKL Insider
facey wroteCOLON Not sure how you figure that. we have 4 wingers who are better then him + kadri/grabo
Kadri + Grabo are no doubt better

but our Wingers are: Kessel, Versteeg, Kulemin, Armstrong (sure all better) but Armstrong looks aweful on the LW side.

however i do think MacArthur would be better on the 3rd line:

MacArthur - Grabovski - Armstrong

its not too shabby for a 3rd line

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:21 pm
by armandtanzarian
Good signing imo. He will bounce between 3rd and 2nd i feel. If he proves himself he may deserve that 2nd lie spot. Really a low risk high reward signing.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:50 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Could be a solid 20 goal scorer, I'm a fan of this signing.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:51 pm
by Nick
mr. bruin wroteCOLONGood signing imo. He will bounce between 3rd and 2nd i feel. If he proves himself he may deserve that 2nd lie spot. Really a low risk high reward signing.

I was kinda sad to see that he actually got lots of first line TOI and #1 PP last year... not exactly exciting #'s for that sorta opportunity... however he had excellent Short handed #'s & TOI, which is nice to see, and some highlight type goals.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:56 pm
by MSP4LYFE
facey wroteCOLONI was kinda sad to see that he actually got lots of first line TOI and #1 PP last year... not exactly exciting #'s for that sorta opportunity... however he had excellent Short handed #'s & TOI, which is nice to see, and some highlight type goals.
If he was great we wouldn't have signed him for 1.1, with an RFA option next season. Kid has some skill and energy, it could be a high upside signing, if not we just walk away in arbitration like the Thrashers did this season.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:01 pm
by Mike
Speaking of MacArthur's arbitration, his agent's an idiot - he could have made his client an extra 500k had he only asked for 1 year at 1.6mil. Atlanta wouldn't have been able to walk away.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:06 pm
by Nick
Starpainter wroteCOLONSpeaking of MacArthur's arbitration, his agent's an idiot - he could have made his client an extra 500k had he only asked for 1 year at 1.6mil. Atlanta wouldn't have been able to walk away.
it sounds like both parties wanted to walk away.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:10 pm
by Mike
facey wroteCOLON it sounds like both parties wanted to walk away.
Perhaps... If Atlanta bought out the auto-1.6 he still would have have pocketed a quick 533k before coming to Toronto.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:12 pm
by Nick
Just thinking out loud here... but it turns out he calls Llyodminster home in the summer, where he trains and practices with the likes of Colby Armstrong and Chris VerBeauty.


3rd line of MacArthur-Versteeg-Armstrong ???

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:13 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Starpainter wroteCOLON
Perhaps... If Atlanta bought out the auto-1.6 he still would have have pocketed a quick 533k before coming to Toronto.
thus still claming a salary of 1.6mil!

Mike's right,

fucking agents

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:38 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Starpainter wroteCOLONSpeaking of MacArthur's arbitration, his agent's an idiot - he could have made his client an extra 500k had he only asked for 1 year at 1.6mil. Atlanta wouldn't have been able to walk away.
I think they figured they could get more on the open market, or MacArthur didn't want to stay in Atlanta.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:39 pm
by MSP4LYFE
facey wroteCOLONJust thinking out loud here... but it turns out he calls Llyodminster home in the summer, where he trains and practices with the likes of Colby Armstrong and Chris VerBeauty.


3rd line of MacArthur-Versteeg-Armstrong ???
Why waste Versteeg on the third line, when we (arguably) have no one better that is not named Phil Kessel.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:46 pm
by inferno31
Macarthur got 2.4 in arbitration I heard because Atlanta was going to walk away no matter what once they got Ladd. They came into the arbitration meeting and literately just said give us an award based off what the player wants ASAP, just so they could walk away from it right away.

I didn't know about the Lloydminister thing (same city but right between two provincial borders). Hockeydb has Colby listed as lloydminister BC, which I don't think exists? It should be sask, or alberta.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:49 pm
by Mike
inferno31 wroteCOLONMacarthur got 2.4 in arbitration I heard because Atlanta was going to walk away no matter what once they got Ladd. They came into the arbitration meeting and literately just said give us an award based off what the player wants ASAP, just so they could walk away from it right away.
Yep, which is why they should have asked for 1.6 instead of 2.4. At 1.6 the contract is auto-accepted by the league, the team has no choice. That's what happened with Kennedy.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:58 pm
by jcarton
I like it, and ya, he would fit nice on the 3rd line

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:05 pm
by inferno31
Starpainter wroteCOLON Yep, which is why they should have asked for 1.6 instead of 2.4. At 1.6 the contract is auto-accepted by the league, the team has no choice. That's what happened with Kennedy.
Its possible he didn't know of Atlanta's plans for him. So he started at 2.4 and expected to end up sub 2.0. In that situation how do you play that risk, if you don't know what they are going to do and only ask 1.6 he'd be calling for his agent's head the same way.

Re: NHL Transactions- TOR signs Clarke MacArthur

PostedCOLON Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:45 pm
by Mike
We must be moving Beauchemin...
Nikolai Kulemin ($2.350m) / Tyler Bozak ($3.725m) / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Clarke MacArthur ($1.100m) / Nazem Kadri ($1.720m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Fredrik Sjostrom ($0.750m) / Mikhail Grabovski ($2.900m) / Colby Armstrong ($3.000m)
Mike Brown ($0.537m) / John Mitchell ($0.725m) / Colton Orr ($1.000m)

Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / Mike Komisarek ($4.500m)
Tomas Kaberle ($4.250m) / Luke Schenn ($2.975m)
Carl Gunnarsson ($0.800m) / Francois Beauchemin ($3.800m)
Brett Lebda ($1.450m)

Jean-Sebastien Giguere ($6.000m) /Jonas Gustavsson ($1.350m)

BUYOUTS: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)
CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $1,400,000

SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,315,833; BONUSES: $5,970,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): -$915,833
That's without any spare forwards.