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Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:08 pm
by kyuss
well if there are no infected people entering the bubble, the bubble will stay Covid free.

The problem is getting there, along the next month

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:12 pm
by foofnik
I've read reports throughout all this that people have gotten infected while being in a bubble, that transmission has happened through for example grocery bags left on a front porch. So not only is this bubble the players and any family, but all vendors and places they go to, it's impossible to truly be in a bubble when players and families need food and entertainment and other necessities. The better question is what the plan is for when a player or family member tests positive. How long before they can come back, do teams get to bring in a new player to replace them, if enough players on a team get infected does a team forfeit or can games be delayed, etc. It's naive to think that no player or family member will test positive or become infected at all throughout this multi-month process.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:13 pm
by Matthew
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Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:40 pm
by kyuss
sounds like M.Vorobyov is signing in Russia for 3 years, wow

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:50 pm
by Matthew
Lawrence Pilut signed 2 years in KHL too.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:49 pm
by CasperX22
kyuss wroteCOLONsounds like M.Vorobyov is signing in Russia for 3 years, wow
What happens when you can't lock down a full time role. The Flyers are too deep with quality bottom 6 fwds in their system for him to find a role.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:14 pm
by kimmer
at least i hear that whats his face is recovering from his bone tumour #FLYERS

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:31 pm
by Matthew
Kalynuk apparently may not sign with the flyers out of college and may look at free agency. Flyers having a tough time lately.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:09 am
by Shoalzie
After seeing the last Olympics, I'm fully embracing the NHL's return to the Olympics. Sounds like their involvement is part of the new CBA/extension. 2022 will be a fun tournament with all the young stars and the balance of power globally.

The RTP agreement is exciting but the idea of labor peace for several years is a very good thing. A lot of speculation is that the assurance of labor peace is a chip the league wants to have when negotiating the new TV deal. It makes perfect sense. Need to max out on that next TV deal to possibly recoup any or all lost revenue during this season.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:09 pm
by ltcompton
Shoalzie wroteCOLONAfter seeing the last Olympics, I'm fully embracing the NHL's return to the Olympics. Sounds like their involvement is part of the new CBA/extension. 2022 will be a fun tournament with all the young stars and the balance of power globally.

The RTP agreement is exciting but the idea of labor peace for several years is a very good thing. A lot of speculation is that the assurance of labor peace is a chip the league wants to have when negotiating the new TV deal. It makes perfect sense. Need to max out on that next TV deal to possibly recoup any or all lost revenue during this season.
This is a very good take, the TV deal is huge for the financial health of the league going forward and labor peace is the lynchpin of that deal. The next two Olympics is a very nice bonus for hockey geeks because the men's World Championships are garbage as far as I'm concerned.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:42 pm
by Handsome&FairMike
foofnik wroteCOLONI've read reports throughout all this that people have gotten infected while being in a bubble, that transmission has happened through for example grocery bags left on a front porch. So not only is this bubble the players and any family, but all vendors and places they go to, it's impossible to truly be in a bubble when players and families need food and entertainment and other necessities. The better question is what the plan is for when a player or family member tests positive. How long before they can come back, do teams get to bring in a new player to replace them, if enough players on a team get infected does a team forfeit or can games be delayed, etc. It's naive to think that no player or family member will test positive or become infected at all throughout this multi-month process.
Exactly. Bubble isn't a bubble. All the staff at the hotels/restaurants/etc are not going to be in the NHL bubble. Risk is minimized but far from zero. At least cases continue to decline at the moment. May start seeing a little uptick in 2nd/3rd week of July as restrictions lessen.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:39 am
by kyuss
Handsome&FairMike wroteCOLON Exactly. Bubble isn't a bubble. All the staff at the hotels/restaurants/etc are not going to be in the NHL bubble.
is this sure? if so, it is not a bubble at all

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:11 pm
by kyuss
Friedman reporting no changes on signing bonuses. WTF

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:37 am
by kyuss
two things I don't like about the new CBA:
https://www.tsn.ca/talent/details-emerg ... -1.1492091

> Opt-out: Any player can opt-out of Return to Play this summer for any reason and there is no penalty or discipline for doing so. There was originally talk that a player opting out for anything other than an underlying medical condition would not be eligible for a playoff share and would not receive the final quarterly pension credit for the season.

Doesn't make any sense to me. So theoretically, how about all NHLers opt not to play, they still get paid while playoffs are played by AHLers? lol


> No signing bonus limits: There will be no changes to the signing bonus system in the new CBA. During negotiations, the NHL was believed to have sought to limit signing bonuses to a maximum of 50 per cent of the total contract compensation.

the ugly is going to stay ugly for 6 more yrs


More importantly though, happy about the Olympics

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:44 am
by Da_Hawks
Signing bonuses are the rich teams' ability to retain their talent, much like the tax-less states have their own advantages. Everyone has to find their edge.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:30 pm
by Matthew
#3 on Pronman's ncaa/europe/juniors availables list Wyatt Kalynuk signs with the Chicago Blackhawks.

Comparison made was Nick Leddy type

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:16 am
by Matthew
League tentatively released a bunch of dates:

July 24: Travel to hubs
July 25: Exhibition games
July 30: Qualification round begins
Aug. 9: First round of playoffs begins
Aug. 23: Second round begins
Sept. 6: Conference Finals begin
Sept. 20: SCF begins
Oct. 2: Last poss. game of SCF

Oct. 6: entry draft
Oct 9 (or 7 days after scf ends): free agency opens

And then for next season:

Nov. 17: Opening of training camps for 2020-21
Dec. 1: Opening of 2020-21 regular season

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:29 am
by kyuss
Entry Draft on a Tuesday?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 09, 2020 9:45 am
by Shoalzie
They can't exactly spread out the offseason if they think they can end in October and drop the puck on the following season in December.

Pushing next season's calendar back a bit would inevitably affect the following offseason and the expansion draft. They'll have to have shorter offseason in 2021 if they want to start 2021-22 around October like normal.

They can put dates out there but there's no telling what the handful of months will be like. At a minimum, you hope this bubble playoff goes off with too many snags. The 2020-21 season is very much up in the air. A short offseason after this playoff could be fun but we'll see what happens.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:37 pm
by ltcompton
You have to appreciate the amount of work that must have gone into putting together this revised schedule. That having been said, I don't think most of this is likely to happen. 80% of the league's players are younger than 30, despite all of the publicity and information about the needs for social distancing, the players just don't have it in them to stay apart from the general population. Players are going to get sick during the "play-offs" and they will all have been in close contact with one another so its almost inevitable that there will be a widespread breakout in the "bubble. I hope I'm wrong but i have a really strong feeling that its inevitable. I think the season is dead but again, I hope I am wrong.

I'm sending my son off to college in the fall, that's going to be a shitshow, all those college kids back together after about 8 months of separation? uh-oh
Matthew wroteCOLONLeague tentatively released a bunch of dates:

July 24: Travel to hubs
July 25: Exhibition games
July 30: Qualification round begins
Aug. 9: First round of playoffs begins
Aug. 23: Second round begins
Sept. 6: Conference Finals begin
Sept. 20: SCF begins
Oct. 2: Last poss. game of SCF

Oct. 6: entry draft
Oct 9 (or 7 days after scf ends): free agency opens

And then for next season:

Nov. 17: Opening of training camps for 2020-21
Dec. 1: Opening of 2020-21 regular season