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Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:08 am
by Arian The Insider
Holy shit 9.5, how will they even have cap next year

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:11 am
by kyuss
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
isn't that what people were saying early on about Pittsburgh because too much money was going to only two players?

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:27 am
by KapG
That’s crazy hahaha

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:43 am
by Da_Hawks
kyuss wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
isn't that what people were saying early on about Pittsburgh because too much money was going to only two players?
I've no issue when the money is tied into your star forwards/dmen... but your goalie should never be one of them.

Is Vasi worth 9.5? Absolutely. But a team should never give that to a goalie because it fucks the rest of the team. IMO goalie salaries should not be counted in the cap. There's almost no way that a team could abuse that... there's only two slots to play, and an elite goalie would never share the spotlight with another elite for an entire year. Let the players earn what they are worth, without it messing up everything else.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:10 am
by Matthew
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
isn't that what people were saying early on about Pittsburgh because too much money was going to only two players?
I've no issue when the money is tied into your star forwards/dmen... but your goalie should never be one of them.

Is Vasi worth 9.5? Absolutely. But a team should never give that to a goalie because it fucks the rest of the team. IMO goalie salaries should not be counted in the cap. There's almost no way that a team could abuse that... there's only two slots to play, and an elite goalie would never share the spotlight with another elite for an entire year. Let the players earn what they are worth, without it messing up everything else.
Toronto pays an elite goalie and the backup 25m each. Basically makes a cap pointless.

Poor teams cannot compete with the 5-10 richest teams at that point.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:19 am
by Jordan (VGK)
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
You'll likely be right simply based off how unlikely it is for any team to win the cup, even the proven best team in the regular season.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:22 am
by Da_Hawks
Matthew wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
isn't that what people were saying early on about Pittsburgh because too much money was going to only two players?
I've no issue when the money is tied into your star forwards/dmen... but your goalie should never be one of them.

Is Vasi worth 9.5? Absolutely. But a team should never give that to a goalie because it fucks the rest of the team. IMO goalie salaries should not be counted in the cap. There's almost no way that a team could abuse that... there's only two slots to play, and an elite goalie would never share the spotlight with another elite for an entire year. Let the players earn what they are worth, without it messing up everything else.
Toronto pays an elite goalie and the backup 25m each. Basically makes a cap pointless.

Poor teams cannot compete with the 5-10 richest teams at that point.
First of all, there is still the cap for the main players. If you go and give the goalie 25 million, you won't be getting any ''deals'' from your other star players. Second of all, nobody is paying their back-up 25 million. You still need to have some common sense and a good business strategy. If you want to be really stupid about this, then put a 15 million cap for goalies or something like that. Again, doubtful it's needed.

Either way, your ''poor'' team can pay 5 million for a goalie and he'll still outperform the 25 mil goalie on many nights.

Elite goalies will only win you a championship if you have the freedom to pay them and still ice a team around them.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:23 am
by Da_Hawks
Malette18 wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
You'll likely be right simply based off how unlikely it is for any team to win the cup, even the proven best team in the regular season.
Tampa might even have a hard time being the best in the regular season. It will depend on how much fat they have to trim next year...

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:25 am
by Jordan (VGK)
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
Malette18 wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
You'll likely be right simply based off how unlikely it is for any team to win the cup, even the proven best team in the regular season.
Tampa might even have a hard time being the best in the regular season. It will depend on how much fat they have to trim next year...
Ya I'm just saying even if Tampa is the best team in the league for the entirety of that contract, their odds to win a cup is still low.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:44 am
by Da_Hawks
Malette18 wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
Malette18 wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
You'll likely be right simply based off how unlikely it is for any team to win the cup, even the proven best team in the regular season.
Tampa might even have a hard time being the best in the regular season. It will depend on how much fat they have to trim next year...
Ya I'm just saying even if Tampa is the best team in the league for the entirety of that contract, their odds to win a cup is still low.
My point is that Tampa will no longer be considered one of the top teams in the league because of that contract. Lose too much depth...

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:49 am
by Matthew
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
Malette18 wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
Malette18 wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
You'll likely be right simply based off how unlikely it is for any team to win the cup, even the proven best team in the regular season.
Tampa might even have a hard time being the best in the regular season. It will depend on how much fat they have to trim next year...
Ya I'm just saying even if Tampa is the best team in the league for the entirety of that contract, their odds to win a cup is still low.
My point is that Tampa will no longer be considered one of the top teams in the league because of that contract. Lose too much depth...
Tampa isn't Montreal. They still have point/kucherov/stamkos/hedman/mcdonagh. They could lose Johnson and palat and would still be a top 5 team fairly easily.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:53 am
by thom54
Tbay will deal 2 of Killorn/Palat/TJ and come out winners of those deals ... while cutting major cap. They're set up so so well

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:00 am
by Da_Hawks
It will really depend on how well they can surround the top players with cheap contracts, ELCs and whatever else. Their depth on D, much like Toronto is where they are going to be tested, especially given Hedman and Mcdonagh eat a big chunk of cap and tend to get hurt often enough.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:31 am
by cliff11
hearing a rumour Vancouver wants TJ and their first is in play hahaha

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:32 am
by Matthew
cliff11 wroteCOLONhearing a rumour Vancouver wants TJ and their first is in play hahaha
FML

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:33 am
by thom54
You want to be a good GM in the NHL ... just keep calling the bad ones... Hello Chiarelli and Hello Benning

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:59 am
by CasperX22
Da_Hawks wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLON
Da_Hawks wroteCOLONThis trade solidies Tampa as a team that will never win a cup, joining Montreal in the process.

Your team cannot win with that much money tied into goaltending. I bet that I will never be proven wrong.
isn't that what people were saying early on about Pittsburgh because too much money was going to only two players?
I've no issue when the money is tied into your star forwards/dmen... but your goalie should never be one of them.

Is Vasi worth 9.5? Absolutely. But a team should never give that to a goalie because it fucks the rest of the team. IMO goalie salaries should not be counted in the cap. There's almost no way that a team could abuse that... there's only two slots to play, and an elite goalie would never share the spotlight with another elite for an entire year. Let the players earn what they are worth, without it messing up everything else.
This is so counter intuitive. Either he's worth the money or he's not. If you can't build a winning team around him at that cap hit then he's not worth it. If you can then he's worth it.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:00 pm
by CasperX22
By the way, has anyone heard from Fraser lately? Somebody may want to do a courtesy check on him after that contract being handed out.

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:00 pm
by thom54
CasperX22 wroteCOLONBy the way, has anyone heard from Fraser lately? Somebody may want to do a courtesy check on him after that contract being handed out.
i laughed

Re: NHL Transactions, Injuries & Rumours

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:08 pm
by Matthew
thom54 wroteCOLON
CasperX22 wroteCOLONBy the way, has anyone heard from Fraser lately? Somebody may want to do a courtesy check on him after that contract being handed out.
i laughed
He shouldnt be in too much trouble capwise as it looks like keslers approximately 7m will be going to ltir...forever