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Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Danis, Pothier, Poni

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:51 pm
by Shoalzie
Had to figure the Kings wanted to add someone with Frolov gone and Kovalchuk not taking their money...a nice one year option because they've got some big contracts to sign starting next summer.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Danis, Pothier, Poni

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:04 pm
by Scott
Yann Danis bailed? Oh no, my team's fucked now!

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Danis, Pothier, Poni

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:05 pm
by Mash
Raptactics wroteCOLONYann Danis bailed? Oh no, my team's fucked now!

LOL

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Danis, Pothier, Poni

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:17 am
by armandtanzarian
another one bites the dust...Grebeshkov

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=803962

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:23 am
by shooker
meh not a big loss. The guy is very one dimensional, I know all my buddies who are oilers fans absolutly hated him.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:25 am
by armandtanzarian
I thought he had some great potential. He got ruined by the coach. I am sure Mike doesnt like losing a d-man!

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:31 am
by shooker
I work in sask/alberta/bc, so I get to see to may flames and spoilers games. Potential is there but he lacks desire to compete and hockey sense to match his skill level, until they guy learns to play within his abilities he will always cost his team more than he helps.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:24 pm
by MSP4LYFE
bryshook wroteCOLONmeh not a big loss. The guy is very one dimensional, I know all my buddies who are oilers fans absolutly hated him.
You're friends are idiots...Last season Denis Grebeshkov was statistically and on the ice, the best two way defenceman on Edmonton, not named Lubomir Visnovsky. He is one of my favourite players, so I watched him a TON.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:27 pm
by MSP4LYFE
bryshook wroteCOLONI work in sask/alberta/bc, so I get to see to may flames and spoilers games. Potential is there but he lacks desire to compete and hockey sense to match his skill level, until they guy learns to play within his abilities he will always cost his team more than he helps.
He definately doesn't lack HS, he makes crisp passes up the ice as well as anyone not named Kaberle and Markov. His posititioning is excellent, and he works his ass off to get back, you are unfairly scrutinizing. Grebs is not your typical russian defenceman. He didn't have his best season last year, but he also played for a terrible Edmonton squad, and was then moved to Nashville where he was behind the likes of Sutter, Hamhuis and Weber.

FTR, last season there wasn't one Oiler fan that I knew of that disliked Grebs, in fact there was a huge thread on HF in the offseason praising him as the future pp QB. It's too bad his contract demands were high, because he was a really good two way defenceman.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:14 pm
by Nick
I dunno Kareem... he's got the skills but really doesn't put it together, IMO thats the IQ portion of the game, and I also know a bunch of oilers fans that hated him.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:46 pm
by MSP4LYFE
facey wroteCOLONI dunno Kareem... he's got the skills but really doesn't put it together, IMO thats the IQ portion of the game, and I also know a bunch of oilers fans that hated him.
This year maybe, but who was a fan favourite this year? I know there was a huge love in for him last season.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:10 am
by shooker
I watched about 50 oilers games this year how many did you watch....I saw what I saw. Like I said skill is there (to make those crisp passes) but hockey sence was not, hence him being a healthy scratch in both edmonton and nashville, for his terrible defensive choices. You are going by his scouting report not by what you have seen, to compare him or even mention his name with markov or kaberle is laughable.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:20 am
by Mike
bryshook wroteCOLONI watched about 50 oilers games this year how many did you watch....I saw what I saw. Like I said skill is there (to make those crisp passes) but hockey sence was not, hence him being a healthy scratch in both edmonton and nashville, for his terrible defensive choices. You are going by his scouting report not by what you have seen, to compare him or even mention his name with markov or kaberle is laughable.
I don't think he was ever a healthy scratch in Nashville, he was injured.

Sucks he bolted... that's why I made the GIlroy trade. I'll be holding on to him for his return in 2012.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:27 am
by MSP4LYFE
bryshook wroteCOLONI watched about 50 oilers games this year how many did you watch....I saw what I saw. Like I said skill is there (to make those crisp passes) but hockey sence was not, hence him being a healthy scratch in both edmonton and nashville, for his terrible defensive choices. You are going by his scouting report not by what you have seen, to compare him or even mention his name with markov or kaberle is laughable.
I find it hard to believe anyone watched the Oilers play 50 games last season...But to answer your question, I watched roughly 15-20 last season, and about 35-40 the year before (and in each of those games I keyed on Grebs specifically)...

Secondly, there are no scouting reports for NHL players, and if there were I would certainly value them over anyones opinon on this site. Furthermore, I said his first pass was second only to Kaberle and Markov, never made a comparison smart ass...

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:37 am
by shooker
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON I find it hard to believe anyone watched the Oilers play 50 games last season...But to answer your question, I watched roughly 15-20 last season, and about 35-40 the year before (and in each of those games I keyed on Grebs specifically)...

Secondly, there are no scouting reports for NHL players, and if there were I would certainly value them over anyones opinon on this site. Furthermore, I said his first pass was second only to Kaberle and Markov, never made a comparison smart ass...
When ya live there and you will get dinner bought for you if you go out to a pub and watch a game with the boss's yea you do. I also lived in edmonton for a year back in 06-07, and have worked out there every winter since. So when it comes to an oiler or flame, I have seen enough of them to make an accurate judgment. I also love hockey, I will watch any game thats on if I have nothing to do. I work 12-16 hours a day every day during the winter (almost litterally from Jan 6th to March 15th I had one day off, no bs at all) so after work I watch the games.

His first pass is no where near theirs that was 100% my point. Maybe I should have said, comparing his "first pass" to markov and kable is laughable. Does that help?

To your point mike he was a healthy scratch a few times even when healthy. To be fair that was a really great dcore last year and didnt really have a fit for him. Shitty for you because he could have landed a starting job in the nhl still.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:54 pm
by MSP4LYFE
bryshook wroteCOLONWhen ya live there and you will get dinner bought for you if you go out to a pub and watch a game with the boss's yea you do. I also lived in edmonton for a year back in 06-07, and have worked out there every winter since. So when it comes to an oiler or flame, I have seen enough of them to make an accurate judgment. I also love hockey, I will watch any game thats on if I have nothing to do. I work 12-16 hours a day every day during the winter (almost litterally from Jan 6th to March 15th I had one day off, no bs at all) so after work I watch the games.

His first pass is no where near theirs that was 100% my point. Maybe I should have said, comparing his "first pass" to markov and kable is laughable. Does that help?

To your point mike he was a healthy scratch a few times even when healthy. To be fair that was a really great dcore last year and didnt really have a fit for him. Shitty for you because he could have landed a starting job in the nhl still.
No, it doesn't help because there was no comparison, although in hindsight I think I would put a few more players ahead of Grebs in the first pass department (Visnovsky, Keith, Niedermayer, Pronger) but it is borderline elite nonetheless. Anyways, this is going nowhere so lets agree to disagree.

2010 #12 overall Cam Fowler signs ELC + B

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:56 pm
by Nick
Fowler's better :D ... and he's signed in the NHL... if he got max $ of a #12 selection, & if I'm reading the CBA correctly, 1.325M (unless he fails to make the team, then the contract slides and is 1.295). I Like it :)

Blake Wheeler, Bruins Still Awaiting Arbitration Ruling

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:02 pm
by Nick
http://www.nesn.com/2010/07/blake-wheel ... uling.html
Keator did confirm the report from The Boston Globe’s Fluto Shinzawa that the reason for the delay in the announcement is that the same arbitrator who heard Wheeler’s case is also involved in Chicago goalie Antti Niemi’s hearing on Thursday.

There was a leak that it was 2.4M, which would be awesome, but I just want it to stay under 3M.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:02 pm
by inferno31
Regin Resigns 1 mil a year cap hit for 2 years.

Re: NHL Transactions Thread - Pothier, Poni, Grebeshkov

PostedCOLON Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:03 pm
by Nick
inferno31 wroteCOLONRegin Resigns 1 mil a year cap hit for 2 years.
That's a friendly contract.