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bills09 wroteCOLONits a 7% gap, and considering the players originally took 54% after the lockout, its closer to a 4% gap in revenue split.
I can almost garentee there will not be a roll back of any kind.
There will be Amnesty Buyouts likely that is how teams will sort out there cap situations.

The problem is that the Owners and Union don't agree on the gap. Remember, the two sides define HRR differently, according to the players they are already receiving 51% (HRR + non HRR). However, the percentage they are receiving counts as 57% with respect to HRR. So in reality, the gap is alot larger than 7%, unless of course you think the Union is being disingenuous, which they may be...

In the last offer the owners returned to the same revenue/HHR wording as used in the 2005 CBA.

Nick wroteCOLONIn the last offer the owners returned to the same revenue/HHR wording as used in the 2005 CBA.

In short, you think the Union are being disingenuous? If so I would agree, I don't think there is a 17% gap or thereabouts as the Union claims, which FTR was made after the latest proposal, not prior.

To be fair to the NHLPA, they don't have anywhere near the man power to properly calculate all the information the NHL shared with them, on top of sheer numbers, I'd be shocked if they had the same quality of accountants as well - likely consultants trying to play catchup in comparison to big biz guys who have handled the NHL owners numbers for years. Likely being as pessimistic and conservative (in their favour of course) as possible.

The scary thing is the actual dollar figure just a few % represents:
7% of 3 billion is 210 million dollars.
17% is 510 million.

so they disagree 300M on disagreeing about the middle ground. It still seems like a long fight to me. And IMO the NHL is negotiating on the figures, whereas the NHLPA is negotiating on ideology. Two different ways to find what is 'fair' - and probably why it's not even worth going to the table until one switches language.