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Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:57 pm
by kimmer
just so that I'm in the clear, I also have no waiver draft picks in 2012.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:33 pm
by Sensfanjosh
Believe both DAL and my own compensation picks are listed one pick too late on the spreadsheet as well.....

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:42 pm
by Lee
It was just a proposal. Not official. We are discussing it in the CC now.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:44 pm
by Peter
Yeah the rules say I'm supposed to pick 2 picks after my original pick, and was I not second last when I inherited?

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:45 pm
by Lee
Discussing in the CC.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:46 pm
by Peter
Kezia wroteCOLONDiscussing in the CC.
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Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:22 pm
by Shoalzie
Nick wroteCOLONWe should do it early September IMO - team will still be holding camps on schedule last I checked, so all the same scouting can be done.

I also think we should do this early September. I think the drop dead date on the CBA (ie--start of a lockout) is the middle of the month. I don't think we should delay this if we didn't delay the entry draft and the rest of the offseason. The only thing different is if there still isn't a CBA by the time we do finally this, we hold off on the final roster deadline until we know when the season is going to start. We won't know what the actual cap/floor will be...and if they do a salary rollback...that'll be a whole mess to deal with.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:33 pm
by Nick
I don't feel like this cap floor situation is being dealt with accordingly by some BBKL teams, and can hear excuses being formed.


Planning for something drastically different then projected in a mistake, and won't be an acceptable excuse. NHL teams have been told the same, they continue to sign players and exist within the salary cap. We (the CC, the BBKL, fellow members) should not have to enforce simple participation/team building regulations. Cap & GP is the fucking basics to an in-depth league, missing those with more then enough time to plan, adjust, readjust, learn, etc...

In the past changes of salary structures have been brought in grandfathered, with buyouts, payouts and scaling. All of that means, plan for the current, because the adjustment will make the current work in the new. I doubt it will be messy in application :P

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:41 pm
by Shep
Teams below the floor need not worry. There are a ton of free agents to be signed a handful of NHL teams below the cap floor. If every NHL team can get to the floor, every BBKL team should be able to get to the floor.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:44 pm
by kyuss
I for one think teams have been worrying too much about a phantom salary floor, considering the salary floor is unknown at this point.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:32 pm
by Shoalzie
Shep wroteCOLONTeams below the floor need not worry. There are a ton of free agents to be signed a handful of NHL teams below the cap floor. If every NHL team can get to the floor, every BBKL team should be able to get to the floor.

I'm not questioning that...we're not even a month into the offseason. There's still plenty of time for more players to find gigs and teams sort out their lineups. I fully acknowledge I'm sitting out a lot of the offseason while I wait for some of my fringe free agents figure out where they're playing hockey. I'm planning on having to add salary...I just need to figure out exactly how much and what the most creative and productive way to obtain it.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:09 pm
by Tony
I took care of my cap concerns early before prices go up

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:27 pm
by Shep
Shoalzie wroteCOLON
Shep wroteCOLONTeams below the floor need not worry. There are a ton of free agents to be signed a handful of NHL teams below the cap floor. If every NHL team can get to the floor, every BBKL team should be able to get to the floor.

I'm not questioning that...we're not even a month into the offseason. There's still plenty of time for more players to find gigs and teams sort out their lineups. I fully acknowledge I'm sitting out a lot of the offseason while I wait for some of my fringe free agents figure out where they're playing hockey. I'm planning on having to add salary...I just need to figure out exactly how much and what the most creative and productive way to obtain it.
The floor isn't even set in stone. This is what the NHL told the GM's so they had something to work off of for the summer. The CBA could change this fairly drastically.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:31 pm
by Lee
Waiver draft date.

?

My proposal:

Announce that the draft date will be Sept 16th

BUT

If there's a lock out, move to a later date.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:40 pm
by Sensfanjosh
Lee wroteCOLONWaiver draft date.

?

My proposal:

Announce that the draft date will be Sept 16th

BUT

If there's a lock out, move to a later date.
Sounds good to me, any news on pick status or an official order?

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:44 pm
by Lee
FTR, the 16th is the day after the lockout would officially begin.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:45 pm
by Lee
Sensfanjosh wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONWaiver draft date.

?

My proposal:

Announce that the draft date will be Sept 16th

BUT

If there's a lock out, move to a later date.
Sounds good to me, any news on pick status or an official order?
Check your inbox

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:22 pm
by Sensfanjosh
Thanks lee appreciate it.

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:05 pm
by Shoalzie
Nobody likes a gossip...

Re: 2012 BBKL Waiver Draft

PostedCOLON Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:31 am
by Lee
Oki just making the announcement. Post in OP has the official draft order, needs to be prettied up, which I will do at some point + updated with current teams.

Draft will be held on Sept 16th UNLESS there is a lock out, in which case it will be moved to a later date, determined by when the lock out ends.