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Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:26 pm
by Robin Hood
Mike wroteCOLON*Considers trading for a d-man he doesn't have room for out of spite*
lol that's what I thought. I owned Lidstrom for a long time. I know exactly who is willing to pay what. Competing teams don't want to give up roster value for him. Building teams don't have a use for him. And even if there is a team that wants him, cap is always an issue. No reason for a team to hold Lidstrom unless they have a very good chance of winning this year.
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:27 pm
by bills09
doesnt mean im gonna give him to you for 2 2nds and a meh prospect....
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:28 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Wow...Greg Mckegg is getting no love in this thread.
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:32 pm
by bills09
its not that I dont like McKegg, but to say McKegg+2nd '12+2nd '13 is a great offer for Nick Lidstrom is laughable.
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:40 pm
by Robin Hood
bills09 wroteCOLONdoesnt mean im gonna give him to you for 2 2nds and a meh prospect....
You are going to get to the deadline next year and realize that TBL, WSH, TOR, BOS, LAK, COL, STL, SJS, VAN will not want to give you a roster player for lidstrom. They will end up offering prospects + picks and the prospects will not be as good as McKegg/or the picks will not be as good. I know this because I held Lidstrom close to the deadline last year. Adding 6.2M in the middle of the year requires cap manipulation by a team to the point where too many pieces need to be moved. Not to mention a lot of teams (including myself) will more than likely get their asses kicked by teams like TOR, TBL, BOS, COL, STL. That huge risk is not worth paying drastically for a one year player. Shep landed Selanne for Jurco. My offer for Lidstrom is just as good if not better. Scott/Kareem/Steve are probably the only other ones who'd give ya value for him but Scott's got his Knights and I dont think Kareem and Steve have the cap room.
But the worst part about this thread is that Lidstrom's valuation is being ridiculed when no one will more than likely make a better offer. And McKegg's being made out to be a joke. If you look at the trade history for what 2nd round picks sold for this year, things went full retard like they always do.
But if you manage to get more, hats off to you man.
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:41 pm
by kimmer
SuperMario wroteCOLONbills09 wroteCOLONdoesnt mean im gonna give him to you for 2 2nds and a meh prospect....
You are going to get to the deadline next year and realize that TBL, WSH, TOR, BOS, LAK, COL, STL, SJS, VAN will not want to give you a roster player for lidstrom. They will end up offering prospects + picks and the prospects will not be as good as McKegg/or the picks will not be as good. I know this because I held Lidstrom close to the deadline last year. Adding 6.2M in the middle of the year requires cap manipulation by a team to the point where too many pieces need to be moved. Not to mention a lot of teams (including myself) will more than likely get their asses kicked by teams like TOR, TBL, BOS, COL, STL. That huge risk is not worth paying drastically for a one year player. Shep landed Selanne for Jurco. My offer for Lidstrom is just as good if not better. Scott/Kareem/Steve are probably the only other ones who'd give ya value for him but Scott's got his Knights and I dont think Kareem and Steve have the cap room.
But the worst part about this thread is that Lidstrom's valuation is being ridiculed when no one will more than likely make a better offer. And McKegg's being made out to be a joke. If you look at the trade history for what 2nd round picks sold for this year, things went full retard like they always do.
But if you manage to get more, hats off to you man.
Very nice explanation, however, this is the offseason
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:43 pm
by Shep
Selanne isn't even signed and coming off knee surgery.
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:45 pm
by bills09
SuperMario wroteCOLONbills09 wroteCOLONdoesnt mean im gonna give him to you for 2 2nds and a meh prospect....
You are going to get to the deadline next year and realize that TBL, WSH, TOR, BOS, LAK, COL, STL, SJS, VAN will not want to give you a roster player for lidstrom. They will end up offering prospects + picks and the prospects will not be as good as McKegg/or the picks will not be as good. I know this because I held Lidstrom close to the deadline last year. Adding 6.2M in the middle of the year requires cap manipulation by a team to the point where too many pieces need to be moved. Not to mention a lot of teams (including myself) will more than likely get their asses kicked by teams like TOR, TBL, BOS, COL, STL. That huge risk is not worth paying drastically for a one year player. Shep landed Selanne for Jurco. My offer for Lidstrom is just as good if not better. Scott/Kareem/Steve are probably the only other ones who'd give ya value for him but Scott's got his Knights and I dont think Kareem and Steve have the cap room.
But the worst part about this thread is that Lidstrom's valuation is being ridiculed when no one will more than likely make a better offer. And McKegg's being made out to be a joke. If you look at the trade history for what 2nd round picks sold for this year, things went full retard like they always do.
But if you manage to get more, hats off to you man.
meh ill keep him then
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:24 pm
by MSP4LYFE
bills09 wroteCOLONits not that I dont like McKegg, but to say McKegg+2nd '12+2nd '13 is a great offer for Nick Lidstrom is laughable.
You just labeled him a "meh prospect"...
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:26 pm
by MSP4LYFE
SuperMario wroteCOLONbills09 wroteCOLONdoesnt mean im gonna give him to you for 2 2nds and a meh prospect....
You are going to get to the deadline next year and realize that TBL, WSH, TOR, BOS, LAK, COL, STL, SJS, VAN will not want to give you a roster player for lidstrom. They will end up offering prospects + picks and the prospects will not be as good as McKegg/or the picks will not be as good. I know this because I held Lidstrom close to the deadline last year. Adding 6.2M in the middle of the year requires cap manipulation by a team to the point where too many pieces need to be moved. Not to mention a lot of teams (including myself) will more than likely get their asses kicked by teams like TOR, TBL, BOS, COL, STL. That huge risk is not worth paying drastically for a one year player. Shep landed Selanne for Jurco. My offer for Lidstrom is just as good if not better. Scott/Kareem/Steve are probably the only other ones who'd give ya value for him but Scott's got his Knights and I dont think Kareem and Steve have the cap room.
But the worst part about this thread is that Lidstrom's valuation is being ridiculed when no one will more than likely make a better offer. And McKegg's being made out to be a joke. If you look at the trade history for what 2nd round picks sold for this year, things went full retard like they always do.
But if you manage to get more, hats off to you man.
As much as it pains me to say this, I concur.
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:48 pm
by bills09
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONbills09 wroteCOLONits not that I dont like McKegg, but to say McKegg+2nd '12+2nd '13 is a great offer for Nick Lidstrom is laughable.
You just labeled him a "meh prospect"...
technically he is a meh prospect as in hes not a great prospect, nor is he a shit one.
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:51 pm
by Nick
'meh' is below 'medium' in my vocab.
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:26 pm
by MSP4LYFE
facey wroteCOLON'meh' is below 'medium' in my vocab.
Same
Re: Gregg McKegg for a D-Man
PostedCOLON Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:35 pm
by Mike
"Meh" to me means not an absolute steal at 62nd overall. Good pick, absolutely, but no steal.