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Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:25 pm
by shooker
I actually think there is a big gap between players, I think the only good thing about this is the cap loss or if heaters didn't mix well with the team or something. I really like what minny has done this offseason.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:27 pm
by anton
shooker wroteCOLONI actually think there is a big gap between players, I think the only good thing about this is the cap loss or if heaters didn't mix well with the team or something. I really like what minny has done this offseason.
the more i think about it, the more i think the same.

well done minny

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:49 pm
by Shep
I hope Heatley does awful there and retires. Guy is a faggot.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:51 pm
by anton
now that you've said that watch heatley return to 50 goal form haha

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:54 pm
by Shep
anton wroteCOLONnow that you've said that watch heatley return to 50 goal form haha
I wouldn't be surprised. San Jose was a bad fit.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:01 pm
by anton
yep. people just assumed that heatley + thornton would be magic.

it simply wasn't. two slower guys on one line - it just didn't work. mikko is much more up heatley's alley in terms of a centerman methinks.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:03 pm
by Shep
I could definitely see Heatley having a bounceback year. I just hate him and love Havlat, so.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:32 pm
by MSP4LYFE
I have little faith in Heatley, he isn't the same player he was a few years ago. Hopefully this trade gives him a kick in the ass, but I doubt.

And Anton, Spezza isn't a fast centerman either and he worked very well with Dany Heatley, I don't believe Koivu will be a better fit for Heater than Thornton, but a new situation might.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:39 pm
by Robin Hood
I would take Heatley at 7.5 over Havlat at 5. But this is a good trade for both teams.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:42 am
by Tony
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Awesome deal. Perfect fit for San Jose.

As a Sharks fan I'm stoked!

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:27 am
by anton
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONI have little faith in Heatley, he isn't the same player he was a few years ago. Hopefully this trade gives him a kick in the ass, but I doubt.

And Anton, Spezza isn't a fast centerman either and he worked very well with Dany Heatley, I don't believe Koivu will be a better fit for Heater than Thornton, but a new situation might.
spezza is certainly faster than thornton.

i think the main difference between the two is (im going to preface this by saying i watch way too much hockey)

spezza and thornton are different "kinds" passers.

spezza is more of a finesse passer like "im going to feather this right to you and land it delicately on your stick so you can shoot" kind of guy

thornton is more like "im gonna laser this fucker right at your tape so it deflects in the net whether you shoot or not"

heatley meshed so well with spez because his weapon is his shot. i see koivu more of a spezza passer than a thornton passer.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:29 am
by kyuss
Nice deal for San Jose, nowadays Heatley is slow as hell.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:04 am
by shooker
kyuss wroteCOLONNice deal for San Jose, nowadays Heatley is slow as hell.
So wait, you are telling me you choose the euro?

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 04, 2011 5:10 am
by Nick
LOL, a shitty heaters (post-olympics) is very similar to havlat, except he's not as injury prone and is more physical. However Heaters has another gear. IMO his struggles have nothing to do with chemistry, and everything to do with his mental state, or perhaps the hip injury he suffered. He's getting the puck in the slot, and no finishing. If he wakes up from his slumber, or his injury improves further, he's a proven 50 goal man.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:44 am
by kyuss
shooker wroteCOLON
kyuss wroteCOLONNice deal for San Jose, nowadays Heatley is slow as hell.
So wait, you are telling me you choose the euro?
i choose the one that can still skate, until Heatley proves he can get back a step at least.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:04 am
by armandtanzarian
I think Heatley comes with alot of baggage and is a locker room cancer. I have never seen such a big bodied guy be such a pussy when it comes to hitting or going in the corners. He has all the offensive talents in the world but how to contain him is written on his forehead. He will have a great first year in Minny then he will figure out the party scene disappear again. He is a douche...

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:25 am
by shooker
I agree that heaters past isn't great, but you are using that as an argument when havlat is a piece of shit as well lol. At least heaters has a couple massive years behind his name to back him up, two 50g 100pt years when havlat has never hit 80... Skill wise you can argue for havlat but when it comes to playing while the clock ticks, I'll take Mr can't skate and run away laughing.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:32 am
by Shep
Just read an interview with Doug Wilson and he basically said they made this trade because Havlat thrives in the playoffs and steps up his game, whereas Heatley does not and has not.

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:38 am
by anton
lol @ sharks fans and now the organization trying to blame heatley for their playoff failures.

13 pts in 14 games in 09/10 playoffs

this year he was playing through a broken fucking hand.

of all the teams, the sharks seem hell bent on blaming their failures on one person (wilson now heatley)

Re: San Jose trades Dany Heatley to Minnesota for Martin Hav

PostedCOLON Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:43 am
by Shep
anton wroteCOLONlol @ sharks fans and now the organization trying to blame heatley for their playoff failures.

13 pts in 14 games in 09/10 playoffs

this year he was playing through a broken fucking hand.

of all the teams, the sharks seem hell bent on blaming their failures on one person (wilson now heatley)
13pts in 14gms but only 2 goals.

5 goals in his last 32 playoff games.

But I agree, seems like a scapegoat once he's gone. He did play through injuries all this years playoffs.