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Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:10 pm
by Mash
Snipeshow wroteCOLONFuck, CHI missed?
So that means that pick becomes worse for me?
Fuck my life..
hasn't offically missed yet, i missed counted number of games left, he should make it.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:12 pm
by anton
Snipeshow wroteCOLONFuck, CHI missed?
So that means that pick becomes worse for me?
Fuck my life..
i was under the impression that the penalty for missing GPs isn't really set. It's up to the CC and Admins.
4-6 : Each team is required to have at least one thousand one hundred (1100) games played by their skaters over the course of the season.
4-6-1 : Penalty for not meeting games played rule will be issued and decided on by Admins and the CC
you should not be punished for me missing GPs, but it's also clear that I wasn't tanking and missing GPs on purpose because I don't even have my own pick. I got railed by injuries and a lot of my guys bounced around the AHL/NHL all year.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:17 pm
by Mash
anton wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONFuck, CHI missed?
So that means that pick becomes worse for me?
Fuck my life..
i was under the impression that the penalty for missing GPs isn't really set. It's up to the CC and Admins.
4-6 : Each team is required to have at least one thousand one hundred (1100) games played by their skaters over the course of the season.
4-6-1 : Penalty for not meeting games played rule will be issued and decided on by Admins and the CC
you should not be punished for me missing GPs, but it's also clear that I wasn't tanking and missing GPs on purpose because I don't even have my own pick. I got railed by injuries and a lot of my guys bounced around the AHL/NHL all year.
If you miss games played your pick will 100% be effected...Mine did last year and I didn't own my 1st.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:59 am
by Monk
anton wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONFuck, CHI missed?
So that means that pick becomes worse for me?
Fuck my life..
i was under the impression that the penalty for missing GPs isn't really set. It's up to the CC and Admins.
4-6 : Each team is required to have at least one thousand one hundred (1100) games played by their skaters over the course of the season.
4-6-1 : Penalty for not meeting games played rule will be issued and decided on by Admins and the CC
you should not be punished for me missing GPs, but it's also clear that I wasn't tanking and missing GPs on purpose because I don't even have my own pick. I got railed by injuries and a lot of my guys bounced around the AHL/NHL all year.
it absolutely will be effected and so it should as a standard was set last year... i believe the punishment was for every 50 gp (skaters) missed the pick was lowered by one entry draft spot
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:53 am
by inferno31
Chicago and Detroit it seems will both miss 1100 games played.
Philly will be close (within 10-15 games I think maybe less). I think Chicago and Detroit will both Miss by well over 50-80 games.
This is based off my understanding last year - For the record I am no longer in the CC and have no bearing on the future decision by them.
The way it works is the team owning the pick is penalized because that pick isn't where it should be. I.E. if we had a guy dress no NHLers that isn't a legitimate number 1 pick we can't calculate where he would of finished had he iced a legitimate NHL team. If a team missed those games you don't get the benefit of the doubt and the pick is penalized a certain amount of spots. The team who missed those games is also fined directly as a result.
The overall result is this - a corrective action to place a pick where it should be regardless of current owner. A fine to the team who missed the game played regulations.
For what the standard should be etc. That is up to the CC & Admin. This issue won't be discussed in earnest till the conclusion of our playoffs - as right now we can only estimate how much a team will miss be. Better to wait for the results and then decide when we are certain. I will say this no one should be able to trade those picks till this is decided.
This bothered me last year, but I didn't discuss it too much. A team that is going to be penalized shouldn't be able to trade for players now to add to their games played once their regular season is over. This doesn't add to the competitiveness of the league and circumvents the spirit of the rule. For some reason I was under the impression we solved this by having a separate number for games played for the regular season only, or a avg games played for weeks your team was active. I recall coming up with such a rule, but can't find it. It's also clear it didn't make our CBA so I don't know how enforceable that rule would be.
Just my opinion, again not on the CC, and not having discussions about this situation this year, but putting my opinion on the circumstance based off what I recall.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:04 am
by Shep
What a waste of my life.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:11 am
by anton
Snipeshow wroteCOLONWhat a waste of my life.
nah, I'll just trade you the CGY pick for the CHI pick if it drops.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:56 am
by Shep
anton wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONWhat a waste of my life.
nah, I'll just trade you the CGY pick for the CHI pick if it drops.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:58 am
by Lee
How does placement work for eliminated teams?
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:03 am
by anton
Snipeshow wroteCOLONanton wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONWhat a waste of my life.
nah, I'll just trade you the CGY pick for the CHI pick if it drops.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
i just dont want to see you get hurt ryan
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:53 pm
by Scott
Kezia wroteCOLONHow does placement work for eliminated teams?
Regular season standings with the conference final teams in the 26-30 positions.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:23 pm
by Nick
The Devil wroteCOLONKezia wroteCOLONHow does placement work for eliminated teams?
Regular season standings with the conference final teams in the
27-30 positions.
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I"ll post my full breakdown from the CC.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:05 pm
by Shep
anton wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONanton wroteCOLONSnipeshow wroteCOLONWhat a waste of my life.
nah, I'll just trade you the CGY pick for the CHI pick if it drops.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
i just dont want to see you get hurt ryan
You're the best Anton.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:15 pm
by Nick
1-14 are the non-playoff teams, based on regular season standings
15-26 are the teams that failed to make the conference finals, based on regular season standings
27-28 are the conference final losers, -> spot based on regular season standings
29 is the SCF loser
30 goes to the cup champ.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:19 pm
by Shep
facey wroteCOLON1-14 are the non-playoff teams, based on regular season standings
15-26 are the teams that failed to make the conference finals, based on regular season standings
27-28 are the conference final losers, -> spot based on regular season standings
29 is the SCF loser
30 goes to the cup champ.
Wait..
So if you make the final 8 and lose and had the worst regular season out of all playoff teams, you now pick 15th?
It should be done per round, no?
Otherwise Topher could beat Scott in round 1, lose in round 2 and still have a better pick than Scott.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:53 pm
by Nick
It's cute that you still don't understand what we base our rules off of
This is NHL format.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:13 pm
by Scott
Snipeshow wroteCOLONfacey wroteCOLON1-14 are the non-playoff teams, based on regular season standings
15-26 are the teams that failed to make the conference finals, based on regular season standings
27-28 are the conference final losers, -> spot based on regular season standings
29 is the SCF loser
30 goes to the cup champ.
Wait..
So if you make the final 8 and lose and had the worst regular season out of all playoff teams, you now pick 15th?
It should be done per round, no?
Otherwise Topher could beat Scott in round 1, lose in round 2 and still have a better pick than Scott.
What Nick said..
We base draft position the same way the NHL does it. Simple as that my friend.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:38 pm
by Shep
Yeah I know how the NHL does it.
It's still retarded.
Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:47 pm
by KapG
Wouldn't mind seeing detroit's pick get bounced out of the top-3 because of not meeting GP requirements
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Re: BBKL Final Draft Position (pre lottery)
PostedCOLON Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:55 pm
by kyuss
Snipeshow wroteCOLONfacey wroteCOLON1-14 are the non-playoff teams, based on regular season standings
15-26 are the teams that failed to make the conference finals, based on regular season standings
27-28 are the conference final losers, -> spot based on regular season standings
29 is the SCF loser
30 goes to the cup champ.
Wait..
So if you make the final 8 and lose and had the worst regular season out of all playoff teams, you now pick 15th?
It should be done per round, no?
Otherwise Topher could beat Scott in round 1, lose in round 2 and still have a better pick than Scott.
which would only be fair..
as the whole regular season results >> 1st playoff week results