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Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:22 am
by kyuss
Topher wroteCOLONWhat I heard is he is going to detroit, because nj will claim him and flip him to them.
not without other teams being fine with that though, since he would have to be exposed to waivers again before getting traded.
At least that's what i got. :?

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:25 am
by bills09
Nabokov has a NMC in the contract, any team claiming him will be keeping him.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:45 am
by armandtanzarian
Yea if NJ claimed him and tried to trade him it could not be to detroit. Then he would have to be re-exposed to waivers where Detroit could try and claim him again. Its confusing. Read Bob MacKenzies post on it on TSN.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:12 pm
by bills09
Isles make claim. good pick up for them.
Scotts happy :P
Neel Sad :(

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:59 pm
by Robin Hood
bills09 wroteCOLONIsles make claim. good pick up for them.
Scotts happy :P
Neel Sad :(
phew.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:33 pm
by MSP4LYFE
mr. bruin wroteCOLONYea if NJ claimed him and tried to trade him it could not be to detroit. Then he would have to be re-exposed to waivers where Detroit could try and claim him again. Its confusing. Read Bob MacKenzies post on it on TSN.
Yes, but per the CBA if Nabakov were to be waived again Detroit would have first crack at him.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:49 pm
by The BBKL Insider
question is, can the Isles trade Nabby? without him clearing waivers first?

what are the rules there

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:57 pm
by MSP4LYFE
sgupca wroteCOLONquestion is, can the Isles trade Nabby? without him clearing waivers first?

what are the rules there
They can't trade him, period.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:59 pm
by Chuck Norris
MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON
sgupca wroteCOLONquestion is, can the Isles trade Nabby? without him clearing waivers first?

what are the rules there
They can't trade him, period.
No movement clause has kicked in that was negotiated by Detroit.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:12 pm
by Robin Hood
LOL Nabokov refused to report to the Islanders:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6048076

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:04 pm
by The BBKL Insider
so what happens now?

if NY puts him back on waivers doesn't Det get first dibs

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:08 pm
by Scott
sgupca wroteCOLONso what happens now?

if NY puts him back on waivers doesn't Det get first dibs
Nope.. he's just re-exposed

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:25 pm
by The BBKL Insider
The Devil wroteCOLON
sgupca wroteCOLONso what happens now?

if NY puts him back on waivers doesn't Det get first dibs
Nope.. he's just re-exposed
fackin' russians eh

what did he think? someone wouldn't claim him...lol

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:42 pm
by Topher
no i read if he gets put back on waivers detroit gets first stab

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:12 pm
by Scott
Topher wroteCOLONno i read if he gets put back on waivers detroit gets first stab
No, they cannot put conditions like that in a contract. And even if that was true, the Isles wouldn't do Detroit that favour.. they'd just suspend him without pay. But maybe Detroit makes them a trade offer and Nabokov gives them permission to trade him. I can see something like that happening.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:10 am
by Topher
Here is our answer to this whole discussion:

Nabokov's future
Unless Islanders GM Garth Snow can persuade Evgeni Nabokov to have a change of heart, the Russian netminder has decided he doesn't want to report to Long Island.

So, what are the Islanders' options if Nabokov doesn't report? Here we go:

• They can suspend Nabokov for not reporting to the team.

• They can go to the NHL and say they want to trade Nabokov, but two things have to happen for any trade to happen: Nabokov would have to waive his no-movement clause and the Isles would have to put him back on the waiver wires, as stated in section 13.23 of the CBA. Only teams that put in an initial waiver claim for Nabokov this past Friday/Saturday would have access to the goalie during this waiver period.

• If he clears waivers again, all 29 teams would get to participate in a second waiver-wire process. The team that sits lowest in the standings has first priority here if multiple teams put in claims.

• If he were to clear waivers a third time (this is highly, highly unlikely), the Islanders would then be able to trade the netminder.

TSN's Bob McKenzie reported Saturday that another possiblity is the Isles could suspend Nabokov for rest of season and then argue to NHL that the goalie owes them the full one-year, $570,000 contract next season, citing the Alexei Yashin precedent in Ottawa.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:20 pm
by Shep
Hilarious.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:35 pm
by armandtanzarian
Back to the original trade, I am confused by this move tbh Kareem. Do you feel you are much better off with Pavelec then Halak? ATL has been a sinking ship. I know STL hasnt been that solid either. I just thought id see a flip by now for a new tandem.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:49 pm
by MSP4LYFE
mr. bruin wroteCOLONBack to the original trade, I am confused by this move tbh Kareem. Do you feel you are much better off with Pavelec then Halak? ATL has been a sinking ship. I know STL hasnt been that solid either. I just thought id see a flip by now for a new tandem.
Halak loses points consistently, and if you take out the first month of the season, he is one of the worst starting goaltenders in hockey...Pavelec is young, one of the top save pct goalies in hockey and ALOT more reliable, even when his team loses. My team is better with him than Halak, it's as simple as that.

Re: WSH/BUF

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:53 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Also this is how Halak's last 6 games have gone: 4 goals, 1 goal, 4 goals, 1 goal, 4 goals, 4 goals. When you backstop a team that rarely gives up 30+ shots a game, you cannot give up 4 every other night, and it seems Halak has been doing that since I got him.