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Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:56 am
by Scott
You seriously think Frans Neilsen's going to play a significant role on the Island while the team gets better? I don't.. the guy's basically a 4th liner. You talk about Ehrhoff's role possibly diminishing. well, I'll say that it's quite possible Nielsen gets the same treatment! Now, I like Rafalski but before last season people would've thought he was a lock for 55 points and what did he end up with? 42! To me, he's getting older and diminishing himself.. Ehrhoff even at 30-35 points per season for the next 9-10 years or Rafalski at 40-45 for the next 2-3? Also, I can't see Ballard taking Ehrhoff's PP time and when Bieska gets moved Ehrhoff keeps his PK time and his minutes increase.. again, imo!
.. and you keep talking about kicking my ass and shit? Why are you obsessed with me?
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:58 am
by The BBKL Insider
I've gotta agree with Scott here
Neilson doesn't even come close to replacing Bolland.
however, i still don't see it as being too lopsided (this deal)...i'd give the edge to Frank, that being said...if Elliott shits the bed or is the backup this deal really blows for Shiv.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:20 am
by Robin Hood
Raptactics wroteCOLONYou seriously think Frans Neilsen's going to play a significant role on the Island while the team gets better? I don't.. the guy's basically a 4th liner. You talk about Ehrhoff's role possibly diminishing. well, I'll say that it's quite possible Nielsen gets the same treatment! Now, I like Rafalski but before last season people would've thought he was a lock for 55 points and what did he end up with? 42! To me, he's getting older and diminishing himself.. Ehrhoff even at 30-35 points per season for the next 9-10 years or Rafalski at 40-45 for the next 2-3? Also, I can't see Ballard taking Ehrhoff's PP time and when Bieska gets moved Ehrhoff keeps his PK time and his minutes increase.. again, imo!
.. and you keep talking about kicking my ass and shit? Why are you obsessed with me?
mark my words scott, Nielsen is a SOLID 3rd liner. Bolland is a borderline 2nd liner which is why he's better. But Nielsen can be mentioned in the same breath and not be out of place. just watch. and btw while you were quoting rafalskis down year, the entire red wings roster was wondering why you didnt mention them either. wings will take the presidents trophy this year.
and you just conceded a very important point: rafalski can be better than ehrhoff for the next 3 years. if that wins me a championship, this trade is a SMALL price to pay.
as far as mentioning kicking your ass is concerned lol i get a kick out of it. you get all riled up about how good your team is (which it is lol its the team to beat and im doing my best to create a roster that can take it down). bolland + ehrhoff with a marginal bench could have easily failed. this trade gives me avenues to be more competitive.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:28 am
by Scott
Rafalski CAN be but I don't think he will be better than Ehrhoff for the next 3 years.. and I guess we'll see what happens with Neilsen.
And when do I get riled up about my team? I like my team but I definitely do not think I'm the team to beat! Maybe in the fact that I'm the reigning champ, sure.. but I feel there's a few teams that are better then me this season and the competition is certainly getting better. I just find it funny that you only makes comments about beating them or kicking their ass to me.. not that I care, I take it as a comliment and view it like you're my little brother trying to live up to my expectations.. it's almost cute
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:45 am
by Chuck Norris
You both can run your mouths all you want but when it comes down to it Im taking you both down this year!
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:48 am
by Scott
Habber wroteCOLONYou both can run your mouths all you want but when it comes down to it Im taking you both down this year!
No team with Mr. Overrated Carey Price will ever win anything except maybe the draft lottery
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:39 am
by anton
SuperMario wroteCOLONi agree i gave frank a lot. but to classify frank as the clear winner is criminal.
so its unacceptable to call frank a "winner" in a legitimate deal where yea...you probably lost.
but responses of "OMFG RAPED" and "DEFINITELY VETO WORTHY" to other legitimate deals is perfectly alright.
i'll keep that in mind.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:07 am
by jcarton
Oh ya, nice land for Dallas
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:36 am
by Nick
i just read all this bs and still don't have anything to say about the trade.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:38 am
by Lee
Yeah, have to agree with you Nick... Possibly just mad that they didn't get certain people involved in the deals? I went after a few parts of that trade, and I also contacted the new owners about certain players that were moved.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:47 pm
by fedro91
I'm licking my deal more and more by the day. I just believe that Elliot is the only one that makes the deal better for Pittsburgh. But I get for sure stud. Bolland and Ehrhoff will get a bigger role. I even believe Ehrhoff will get arround 60pts and Bolland will get more pts sine he's now healthy. So I see him getting arround 50+pts on the 2nd line of Chicago.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:08 pm
by Nick
LOL frank... your being silly, right?
- Licking? what does the deal taste like?
- Ehrhoff will get arround 60pts? is he playing RW for the Sedins now, cause I missed that announcement.
-[Bolland] getting arround 50+pts on the 2nd line of Chicago? What happened to Sharpe? Did he demand a trade?
note: I totally see Bolland getting around 50pts, not questioning that.
double note (what does this mean!!!): I think I like the deal for Frank, but mostly because I think the sens are shittier then other people think they are, and that the Wings are on the downhill slide, less so because I think he got big impact players.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:24 pm
by The BBKL Insider
fedro91 wroteCOLONI'm licking my deal more and more by the day. I just believe that Elliot is the only one that makes the deal better for Pittsburgh. But I get for sure stud. Bolland and Ehrhoff will get a bigger role. I even believe Ehrhoff will get arround 60pts and Bolland will get more pts sine he's now healthy. So I see him getting arround 50+pts on the 2nd line of Chicago.
What buddy
His name is Ehrhoff not Green
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:39 pm
by Nick
sgupca wroteCOLON
What buddy
His name is Ehrhoff not Green
no self-plugging doughty reference? or is he 70 points?
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:34 pm
by fedro91
I'm licking my deal more and more by the day. I just believe that Elliot is the only one that makes the deal better for Pittsburgh. But I get for sure stud. Bolland and Ehrhoff will get a bigger role.
I even believe Ehrhoff will get arround 60pts and Bolland will get more pts sine he's now healthy. So I see him getting arround 50+pts on the 2nd line of Chicago.
What buddy
His name is Ehrhoff not Green
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the funny thing they project Ehroff for a 60pts season. What I think is 55pts+ for sure.
it s from THN where I heard it, i know there mostly wrong but they could be right on this one.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:05 pm
by Robin Hood
if ehrhoff has a 60 point season im going to cry.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:07 pm
by Robin Hood
Raptactics wroteCOLONRafalski CAN be but I don't think he will be better than Ehrhoff for the next 3 years.. and I guess we'll see what happens with Neilsen.
And when do I get riled up about my team? I like my team but I definitely do not think I'm the team to beat! Maybe in the fact that I'm the reigning champ, sure.. but I feel there's a few teams that are better then me this season and the competition is certainly getting better. I just find it funny that you only makes comments about beating them or kicking their ass to me.. not that I care, I take it as a comliment and view it like you're my little brother trying to live up to my expectations.. it's almost cute
oh scott there you go again. if i was here from the start you wouldnt have won the championship last year
. consider yourself the beneficiary of my absence. you won't be so lucky this year
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:14 pm
by Shep
I like it for Frank but I think I hate every piece in this deal, for both sides.
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:37 pm
by Scott
LOL Shiv.. so you're basically calling everyone else useless?
Re: PIT/DAL
PostedCOLON Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:40 pm
by MSP4LYFE
Raptactics wroteCOLONLOL Shiv.. so you're basically calling everyone else useless?
I can't wait to shut him up on week 9...