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Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:54 pm
by KapG
Maybe berube is just a terrible coach who hae no clue how to coach offense.

That is a lot of talented names ...

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:55 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Bruyns wroteCOLONOK so then Nick just needed to say "on paper" Philly's forwards are fine. I agree with him that they have more pressing issues to address than adding more scoring.
you dont try to add more scoring, you try to fix the problem...the problem is they all look lost, every player on the ice....i said from the get-go that Bruble or whatever his name is wouldn't fix the problem.

fucking hire marc crawford and let them play a run-and-gun style hockey.

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:56 pm
by anton
or giroux is just fucking 10-ply like he's always been and it's now catching up to him

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:57 pm
by Bruyns
Giroux
Voracek
Hartnell
Schenn
Read
Simmonds
Lecavalier
Couturier
Downie

That is a nice looking top 9 that has performed fine in the past. They can't buy a goal right now, but trading Giroux for Eberle++ isn't going to solve any problems. They are a team that is impossible to get a read on and there is no reason for them not being able to score.

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:58 pm
by Robin Hood
KapG wroteCOLONMaybe berube is just a terrible coach who hae no clue how to coach offense.

That is a lot of talented names ...
Names are just that - names.

Those names have had 1 good season under their belts for the most part. Otherwise their history has not been that of a high scoring team at all. That's a middle of the pack scoring team.

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:58 pm
by KapG
Giroux isn't the only talented player there though.

He may be the most overrated however?

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:58 pm
by anton
turris + voracek for mackinnon + lazar aint lookin too bad for me afterall

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:59 pm
by Bruyns
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONOK so then Nick just needed to say "on paper" Philly's forwards are fine. I agree with him that they have more pressing issues to address than adding more scoring.
you dont try to add more scoring, you try to fix the problem...the problem is they all look lost, every player on the ice....i said from the get-go that Bruble or whatever his name is wouldn't fix the problem.

fucking hire marc crawford and let them play a run-and-gun style hockey.
I'd like to see ol' Ronnie Wilson get another shot. His "hanta yo" speech will give them all the motivation they need

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:00 pm
by KapG
SuperMario wroteCOLON
KapG wroteCOLONMaybe berube is just a terrible coach who hae no clue how to coach offense.

That is a lot of talented names ...
Names are just that - names.

Those names have had 1 good season under their belts for the most part. Otherwise their history has not been that of a high scoring team at all. That's a middle of the pack scoring team.
Most of the names there are very young...

I wouldn't expect a huge number of dominating years from them considering that...

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:02 pm
by The BBKL Insider
anton wroteCOLONturris + voracek for mackinnon + lazar aint lookin too bad for me afterall
fuck ya, glad i traded voracek while he was hot...

i forget where i traded him tho...but i remember getting John Carlson who's a stud

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:02 pm
by Robin Hood
Bruyns wroteCOLONGiroux
Voracek
Hartnell
Schenn
Read
Simmonds
Lecavalier
Couturier
Downie

That is a nice looking top 9 that has performed fine in the past. They can't buy a goal right now, but trading Giroux for Eberle++ isn't going to solve any problems. They are a team that is impossible to get a read on and there is no reason for them not being able to score.
That is such bs.

Couturier, Read, Schenn cannot be counted on of a lot of offence.

Hartnell, Simmonds, Downie are not going to get more than 50 points in any season. Maybe one of them gets lucky and gets 52 points, but they're all closer to 40 point players.

Lecavalier is not who he once was. He may get to 55-60, but he has injury issues too and he may not keep up that level of play.

Giroux is their only true 60+ point player but he is treated like a lock for 80+ points player, which he is not.

Beyond what this looks like "on paper" there is something to be said of chemistry. Of those players listed, not one can generate offence with Giroux. Simmonds/Downie can play the grinder role on the line, but there is no playmaker/trigger man to help Giroux.

On defence, no doubt they need help. But their goaltending is not an issue at all.

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:02 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Bruyns wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONOK so then Nick just needed to say "on paper" Philly's forwards are fine. I agree with him that they have more pressing issues to address than adding more scoring.
you dont try to add more scoring, you try to fix the problem...the problem is they all look lost, every player on the ice....i said from the get-go that Bruble or whatever his name is wouldn't fix the problem.

fucking hire marc crawford and let them play a run-and-gun style hockey.
I'd like to see ol' Ronnie Wilson get another shot. His "hanta yo" speech will give them all the motivation they need
oh wow, rotten ronnie would ruin what pride that team has left.

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:02 pm
by Mike
I enjoy watching Philly struggle.

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:07 pm
by Arian The Insider
Ya, don't see any 1st liners there aside from giroux. Need help on defense for sure too though

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:10 pm
by KapG
Voraceks a first liner. I thought this before he was offered too me too.

Berube is the problem though. Mark my words once he's gone the offense will reappear

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:13 pm
by Bruyns
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Bruyns wroteCOLONGiroux
Voracek
Hartnell
Schenn
Read
Simmonds
Lecavalier
Couturier
Downie

That is a nice looking top 9 that has performed fine in the past. They can't buy a goal right now, but trading Giroux for Eberle++ isn't going to solve any problems. They are a team that is impossible to get a read on and there is no reason for them not being able to score.
That is such bs.

Couturier, Read, Schenn cannot be counted on of a lot of offence.

Hartnell, Simmonds, Downie are not going to get more than 50 points in any season. Maybe one of them gets lucky and gets 52 points, but they're all closer to 40 point players.

Lecavalier is not who he once was. He may get to 55-60, but he has injury issues too and he may not keep up that level of play.

Giroux is their only true 60+ point player but he is treated like a lock for 80+ points player, which he is not.

Beyond what this looks like "on paper" there is something to be said of chemistry. Of those players listed, not one can generate offence with Giroux. Simmonds/Downie can play the grinder role on the line, but there is no playmaker/trigger man to help Giroux.

On defence, no doubt they need help. But their goaltending is not an issue at all.
Teams don't have 9 60pt+ players. I didn't say they were an amazing top 9 I said is was a "nice looking" top 9.

Voracek is 24, Schenn 22, Couturier 20, Giroux 25, Simmonds 25 that's 5 players 25 or younger that shouldn't be expected to have a long track record of offensive success. The best could very well be yet to come for some. I view Hartnell and Simmonds as 50 pt players not 40, but I wasn't trying to say Philly is one of the best offensive teams in the league. I think they will be fine up front and defence is a bigger issue was the point I was making.

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:13 pm
by anton
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo........................



does anyone have an offer on eberle?

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:14 pm
by Mike
i do not

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:14 pm
by The BBKL Insider
KapG wroteCOLONVoraceks a first liner. I thought this before he was offered too me too.

Berube is the problem though. Mark my words once he's gone the offense will reappear
i tend to agree with this.

i believe we talked about this too, how Berbule was a bad hire right from the start.

Re: JORDAN EBERLE

PostedCOLON Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:14 pm
by The BBKL Insider
anton wroteCOLONsooooooooooooooooooooooooooo........................



does anyone have an offer on eberle?
i did, but u fucked it up