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Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:30 pm
by Nick
It sucks we have to deal with situations like this.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:24 pm
by bma
blues wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONNot breaking any rules and I have my goalie stats for the year.
That doesn't make it any less retarded.
It's retarded because STL's 14-1-1 win or whatever its going to be is going to be key in him running away with the division. Not saying he wasn't going to win the division anyways but it doesnt help..

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:31 pm
by Shep
bcool wroteCOLON
blues wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONNot breaking any rules and I have my goalie stats for the year.
That doesn't make it any less retarded.
It's retarded because STL's 14-1-1 win or whatever its going to be is going to be key in him running away with the division. Not saying he wasn't going to win the division anyways but it doesnt help..
Believe me, I agree.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:41 pm
by bma
blues wroteCOLON
bcool wroteCOLON
blues wroteCOLON
Lee wroteCOLONNot breaking any rules and I have my goalie stats for the year.
That doesn't make it any less retarded.
It's retarded because STL's 14-1-1 win or whatever its going to be is going to be key in him running away with the division. Not saying he wasn't going to win the division anyways but it doesnt help..
Believe me, I agree.
youre a good man, shep.

And im pretty sure that Im not complaining only because its affecting me directly. I think its one thing to "tank" and play shittier nhl players if you have the depth but to play ahl/chl guys who have no chance of racking up GP..especially at the goalie position, is kind of pushing it.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:43 pm
by kimmer
the argument for the fellow top tier teams complaining about standings change as a result of this should be irrelevant

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:55 pm
by Nick
How so? Tanking creates an unfair situation in our scoring system. Aside from the win, we stupidly measure magnitude of the win. Now compare that against teams that don't face him, or faced him before the tank began. It magnifies the problem with our scoring system.

Our gp, goalie and anti-tanking rules clearly need a compete overhaul.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:13 pm
by Mike
fuckin tight one steven. would have been more fun if we had any goaltending this week.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:23 pm
by Peter
Nick wroteCOLONHow so? Tanking creates an unfair situation in our scoring system. Aside from the win, we stupidly measure magnitude of the win. Now compare that against teams that don't face him, or faced him before the tank began. It magnifies the problem with our scoring system.

Our gp, goalie and anti-tanking rules clearly need a compete overhaul.
Without tanking the bottom teams will never get better and there'd be zero point in me even being a gm because it would take like 1000 hours of trading to become semishly competitive.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:52 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Mike wroteCOLONfuckin tight one steven. would have been more fun if we had any goaltending this week.
i can't even believe i won a goalie stat, between our goalies we had 8 games played, a combined 4 gaa and 855sv percent, no wins, 8 L's and of course no shut-outs

next week i'm unleashing the bernier.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:54 pm
by The BBKL Insider
Nick wroteCOLONHow so? Tanking creates an unfair situation in our scoring system. Aside from the win, we stupidly measure magnitude of the win. Now compare that against teams that don't face him, or faced him before the tank began. It magnifies the problem with our scoring system.

Our gp, goalie and anti-tanking rules clearly need a compete overhaul.
if we go to a W-L-T system instead of getting 16 points for a sweep of a tanker would make it more even for the top teams.

For example, shep is going to pick up 30-32 points this week with a clear win over Lee, that adds a lot of points for 1 weeks worth of a win.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:10 pm
by Shep
I'd have lost every goalie stat.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:17 pm
by The BBKL Insider
crosby has almost 80 points LOL

what

edit = 72, not 78

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:50 pm
by shooker
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON
Nick wroteCOLONHow so? Tanking creates an unfair situation in our scoring system. Aside from the win, we stupidly measure magnitude of the win. Now compare that against teams that don't face him, or faced him before the tank began. It magnifies the problem with our scoring system.

Our gp, goalie and anti-tanking rules clearly need a compete overhaul.
if we go to a W-L-T system instead of getting 16 points for a sweep of a tanker would make it more even for the top teams.

For example, shep is going to pick up 30-32 points this week with a clear win over Lee, that adds a lot of points for 1 weeks worth of a win.
W-L-T doesn't fix the goalie problem. They would still almost guarantee losing weeks because they go into every week 0-3-1. It might not sound like much, but against other bottom feeders it all but locks in a L for that team. Regardless of how many points were in a week. Trust me, I had zero goalie starts for 5 weeks. I lost a couple of those weeks where even a 2-2-0 goalie stats would have won me the week.

The issue at hand is that we allow this to happen without injuries occurring, not how it magnifies wins. If this can't happen, it really doesn't matter what scoring system we have for standings. at least not using this as an example.

Another big issue is how we allow teams to use 2 goalie systems in one week. I faced 6 starts against in a week. I know another team had 6+ weeks with two starters, 5 times reaching 6 starts. It might not sound like a big deal but it assures a win in the goalie win and shtoi categories before a week starts. The fact that games played during the post season, regardless of still playing or not, count towards yearly totals mean that one team could essentially play all 82 games in the regular season and none in the offseason to help their pick get higher in the standings, assuming the didn't own it as that is how it would be advantageous. The flip side of this is that a team with two starters could easily get 20+ starts in the playoff time period alone which would mean they only had to dress a goalie for 5-6 weeks in the regular season. That could totally change tanking as well.

Both topics I sent via pm to the CC a month or two ago. Both need to be addressed in the offseason. There is no way a team should be allowed to dress two starters in a week, regardless of the circumstances that created the two starters.

I wish these faggy issues wouldn't come up but it was something I saw coming.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:54 pm
by Shep
All of these issues are being discussed and will addressed in the offseason.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:00 pm
by shooker
blues wroteCOLONAll of these issues are being discussed and will addressed in the offseason.
obviously you couldn't change anything midseason. shame that this even has to be an issue.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:03 pm
by The BBKL Insider
ya, we're just talking aloud

sue us shep

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:10 pm
by KapG
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON
Nick wroteCOLONHow so? Tanking creates an unfair situation in our scoring system. Aside from the win, we stupidly measure magnitude of the win. Now compare that against teams that don't face him, or faced him before the tank began. It magnifies the problem with our scoring system.

Our gp, goalie and anti-tanking rules clearly need a compete overhaul.
if we go to a W-L-T system instead of getting 16 points for a sweep of a tanker would make it more even for the top teams.

For example, shep is going to pick up 30-32 points this week with a clear win over Lee, that adds a lot of points for 1 weeks worth of a win.
Or you could just properly fine people who do what lee is doing.

W l t is soooooooooooo boring. Also doesnt fix the issue here, as has been mentioned.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:18 pm
by shooker
KapG wroteCOLON
Fair Deals Steve wroteCOLON
Nick wroteCOLONHow so? Tanking creates an unfair situation in our scoring system. Aside from the win, we stupidly measure magnitude of the win. Now compare that against teams that don't face him, or faced him before the tank began. It magnifies the problem with our scoring system.

Our gp, goalie and anti-tanking rules clearly need a compete overhaul.
if we go to a W-L-T system instead of getting 16 points for a sweep of a tanker would make it more even for the top teams.

For example, shep is going to pick up 30-32 points this week with a clear win over Lee, that adds a lot of points for 1 weeks worth of a win.
Or you could just properly fine people who do what lee is doing.

W l t is soooooooooooo boring. Also doesnt fix the issue here, as has been mentioned.
there are multiple issues with goaltending and gp imo. There is a rule against having more then 4 goalie starts in the playoffs (obviously would have been an exception if it were something like TBL having 5 in one week) because it is deemed unfair but yet it is allowed to occur in the regular season? seems like an easy clarification that needs to be taken place.

also gp in general. guys don't have to dress multiple positions in the regular season and can make up gp in the postseason. needs to be addressed, simply making the gp requirements based off the 21 week regular season seems like an easy option but thankfully, I don't have to make those decisions.

this league will clearly be ever evolving as we keep finding loopholes and abuse them. Everyone does it, so clearly not an attack on a person, just the rules.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:25 pm
by Shep
I see no reason why we cannot go with 60+ GGP on the season and no more than 5GP from goalies in a week. It's low enough that it's a risk to start 2 starters, but leaves 5 GP for an NHL system to be reasonable.

Re: Week 17 - WARNING 1:00PM EST START

PostedCOLON Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:30 pm
by Lee
So you want to fine me for not breaking any rules? Awesome job, mini hitler.