Buds Board Keepers League

Nick wroteCOLONI think an asset switch is very bad precedent. GM's switching spots is silly silly silly.


I have nothing wrong with (and supported every other time it came up) with Tony changing to the Sharks, and taking all of his current assets with him. It is ugly to have guys switching to an empty team and getting their assets every time an opening comes up.

I disagree with Kareem that precedence was set in the summer when we turned down one of his hissy fits. Someone needs to read some Farley Mowat. Switching to your favourite team is a good reason IMO, but NOT getting the sharks assets. IMO NEEL's players switch to the NYI, and Tony's current players and picks are switched over to SJS.


IMO the league should be able to handle going on their spreadsheets and erasing SJS with NYI and vice versa.

Nick wroteCOLONWe will shuffle up when the NHL does the name changing fiasco and people wanting to switch is just ugly...no to one and no to all.

SuperMario wroteCOLON Actually this is false. He initially wanted to just switch team names while moving all assets over. But that is not possible because logistically it will cause too many issues. So he opted for the 2nd option of taking over the team and its assets. He even said he is willing to take a penalty to make the switch. So it is not like he is trying to profit from the switch. He would suggest it even if SJS was worse than his team. Secondly, "thinking Nick is Philly" really is not a problem in terms of BBKL. It's in your head. Thats not a logical counter. Both points you have made are subjective. I still dont see a "problem" caused by this switch.

anton wroteCOLONi cant believe how much of a shit people give about what "team" they're labeled as. there is ZERO connection to the real NHL team. it's a logo beside your name on a forum. get over it.

a switch of any kind shows a lack of dedication to the team the GM has spent months/years building, is a logistical nightmare, and opens a whole can of worms in the future.

end of story.

MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON

Nick wroteCOLONWe will shuffle up when the NHL does the name changing fiasco and people wanting to switch is just ugly...no to one and no to all.

http://bbkl.ca/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3139&start=140

hockeysense wroteCOLON

anton wroteCOLONi cant believe how much of a shit people give about what "team" they're labeled as. there is ZERO connection to the real NHL team. it's a logo beside your name on a forum. get over it.

a switch of any kind shows a lack of dedication to the team the GM has spent months/years building, is a logistical nightmare, and opens a whole can of worms in the future.

end of story.

Because it adds another dimension of "realism" which is what the BBKL has been trying to observe in the stats.

anton wroteCOLONand a team trading GMs or swapping 100% of it's assets contributes to this realism how?

anton wroteCOLONi cant believe how much of a shit people give about what "team" they're labeled as. there is ZERO connection to the real NHL team. it's a logo beside your name on a forum. get over it.

a switch of any kind shows a lack of dedication to the team the GM has spent months/years building, is a logistical nightmare, and opens a whole can of worms in the future.

end of story.

if it was as simple as swapping CBS assets this wouldn't be an issue. But it's way more than that. Spreadsheet's for anybody that owns these picks, backtracking any trades made by NYI or SJS to track down picks/assets, etc.

Mike wroteCOLON

SuperMario wroteCOLON Actually this is false. He initially wanted to just switch team names while moving all assets over. But that is not possible because logistically it will cause too many issues. So he opted for the 2nd option of taking over the team and its assets. He even said he is willing to take a penalty to make the switch. So it is not like he is trying to profit from the switch. He would suggest it even if SJS was worse than his team. Secondly, "thinking Nick is Philly" really is not a problem in terms of BBKL. It's in your head. Thats not a logical counter. Both points you have made are subjective. I still dont see a "problem" caused by this switch.

Actually you are wrong.

To the 1st, I don't care what his motivations are, if we allow team switching some people will want to switch to better clubs in the future.

To the 2nd, that is indeed a logical counter, even if it is only my feeble mind that has this issue, as it is an unnecessary inconvenience.

As well, the only positive you've put forth for this is that a manager gets the label of his favourite team. Maybe I'm an ass, but I don't care that you don't get your favourite team. Tough shit.

Mike wroteCOLON

hockeysense wroteCOLON

anton wroteCOLONi cant believe how much of a shit people give about what "team" they're labeled as. there is ZERO connection to the real NHL team. it's a logo beside your name on a forum. get over it.

a switch of any kind shows a lack of dedication to the team the GM has spent months/years building, is a logistical nightmare, and opens a whole can of worms in the future.

end of story.

Because it adds another dimension of "realism" which is what the BBKL has been trying to observe in the stats.

GMs quitting one team to join another? That happens all the time in the NHL.

Shep wroteCOLONIf it was as simple as swapping CBS assets this wouldn't be an issue. But it's way more than that. Spreadsheet's for anybody that owns these picks, backtracking any trades made by NYI or SJS to track down picks/assets, etc.

SuperMario wroteCOLON

Mike wroteCOLON

SuperMario wroteCOLON Actually this is false. He initially wanted to just switch team names while moving all assets over. But that is not possible because logistically it will cause too many issues. So he opted for the 2nd option of taking over the team and its assets. He even said he is willing to take a penalty to make the switch. So it is not like he is trying to profit from the switch. He would suggest it even if SJS was worse than his team. Secondly, "thinking Nick is Philly" really is not a problem in terms of BBKL. It's in your head. Thats not a logical counter. Both points you have made are subjective. I still dont see a "problem" caused by this switch.

Actually you are wrong.

To the 1st, I don't care what his motivations are, if we allow team switching some people will want to switch to better clubs in the future.

To the 2nd, that is indeed a logical counter, even if it is only my feeble mind that has this issue, as it is an unnecessary inconvenience.

As well, the only positive you've put forth for this is that a manager gets the label of his favourite team. Maybe I'm an ass, but I don't care that you don't get your favourite team. Tough shit.

You'd be singing a different tune if you didn't own the Maple Leafs. And none of the points you have made are logical. Whenever you go to work somewhere or join a club, part of the experience is getting what you would ideally want. BBKL as an organization should make exceptions for GMs who are fans of certain teams. This isnt a big deal. It's a damn GM moving over to the west to take over a team that another GM will be doing anyways. It is an act of good will. It builds a better community. Better loyalty. You being an ass and saying this is how it is, is just a deterrent to that community. This is a fantasy hockey league for hockey fans. We should accommodate fans so that they have a better experience.

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anton wroteCOLONi cant believe how much of a shit people give about what "team" they're labeled as. there is ZERO connection to the real NHL team. it's a logo beside your name on a forum. get over it.

a switch of any kind shows a lack of dedication to the team the GM has spent months/years building, is a logistical nightmare, and opens a whole can of worms in the future.

end of story.

Because it adds another dimension of "realism" which is what the BBKL has been trying to observe in the stats.

GMs quitting one team to join another? That happens all the time in the NHL.

So we're a unincorporated organization now? Either way, Brian Burke. Your move.

anton wroteCOLONyep, and part of being a big boy is understanding that you dont always get what you want and that you may have to give up what you want for the benefit of a greater good.

Mike wroteCOLON...but Tony doesn't want to do that.

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hockeysense wroteCOLON

Mike wroteCOLON

hockeysense wroteCOLON

anton wroteCOLONi cant believe how much of a shit people give about what "team" they're labeled as. there is ZERO connection to the real NHL team. it's a logo beside your name on a forum. get over it.

a switch of any kind shows a lack of dedication to the team the GM has spent months/years building, is a logistical nightmare, and opens a whole can of worms in the future.

end of story.

Because it adds another dimension of "realism" which is what the BBKL has been trying to observe in the stats.

GMs quitting one team to join another? That happens all the time in the NHL.

So we're a unincorporated organization now? Either way, Brian Burke. Your move.

Yeah I posted that up above. He is one example. ONE.