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Re: Downgrading Championship Pieces Block
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:43 pm
by Bruyns
I was offering you 2 NHLers since Murphy has been been up for a while now too. I offered Olsen +McCabe+1st privately earlier and was told he is worth more.
Re: Downgrading Championship Pieces Block
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:47 pm
by Robin Hood
Bruyns wroteCOLONI was offering you 2 NHLers since Murphy has been been up for a while now too. I offered Olsen +McCabe+1st privately earlier and was told he is worth more.
We disagree on the definition of "NHLers". I do not consider Harrold an NHLer. Nor do I consider Murphy one yet.
I realize it's frustrating. But we think alike. An offer like that looks better than it is because there are so many pieces coming my way. But if I pieced it together and even tried to get a guy like Polak back, I wouldn't be able to.
"Tearing it down" cannot be done at the expense of giving up the ability to build it back up. A lot of teams have fallen victim to that trap around here including the last GM of your Buffalo team. Which is why I am taking my time here.
Feel free to shoot me any ideas.
Re: Downgrading Championship Pieces Block
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:53 pm
by Bruyns
SuperMario wroteCOLONBruyns wroteCOLONI was offering you 2 NHLers since Murphy has been been up for a while now too. I offered Olsen +McCabe+1st privately earlier and was told he is worth more.
We disagree on the definition of "NHLers". I do not consider Harrold an NHLer. Nor do I consider Murphy one yet.
I realize it's frustrating. But we think alike. An offer like that looks better than it is because there are so many pieces coming my way. But if I pieced it together and even tried to get a guy like Polak back, I wouldn't be able to.
"Tearing it down" cannot be done at the expense of giving up the ability to build it back up. A lot of teams have fallen victim to that trap around here including the last GM of your Buffalo team. Which is why I am taking my time here.
Feel free to shoot me any ideas.
Not sure how Harrold isn't an NHLer at this point. He is averaging 19min a game and on a 2 year one way contract paying him 800K a year. All other points are fair.
Re: Downgrading Championship Pieces Block
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:16 pm
by kimmer
Harrold is a fringe 7-8th dman that acts as pluggish as possible in any other situations except for when playing for a sad team like NJD which has to force 19+min of ice time per game on a guy like harrold. thats what he means
Re: Downgrading Championship Pieces Block
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:33 pm
by Bruyns
gooker wroteCOLONHarrold is a fringe 7-8th dman that acts as pluggish as possible in any other situations except for when playing for a sad team like NJD which has to force 19+min of ice time per game on a guy like harrold. thats what he means
Shhhh Paul he is amazing.
NJ is playing him more than, Fayne, Larsson, Volchenkov and Merrill so their coaching staff obviously trusts him and thinks he is an NHL caliber D or they wouldnt have offered him more than league minimum for multiple years. I know he isn't very good though and didn't think he was a big piece of the offer it was just fulfilling the requirement of NHLer.
Re: Downgrading Championship Pieces Block
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:39 pm
by kimmer
Volchenkov:
12/02 MON 0 1 1 0 16:43
12/04 MON 0 0 0 -1 18:47
12/06 DET 0 0 0 0 20:57
12/07 NYR 0 0 0 1 18:28
12/10 CLB 0 0 0 -2 9:57 (injury)
12/13 PIT 0 1 1 1 16:14
12/14 TB 0 0 0 0 22:32
Harrold:
11/16 PIT 0 0 0 0 19:21
11/20 ANA 0 0 0 0 18:50
11/21 LA 0 0 0 1 18:43
11/23 SJ 0 0 0 0 18:41
11/25 WPG 0 0 0 0 18:08
11/27 CAR 0 0 0 -2 19:13
12/07 NYR 0 0 0 -1 17:06
stop lying now kkthx
Re: Downgrading Championship Pieces Block
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:45 pm
by Bruyns
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm? ... =timeOnIce
Im talking about for the 13-14 season not for the last 7 games, wouldn't lie about something dumb like his ice time.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:54 pm
by Robin Hood
Bump.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:56 pm
by Robin Hood
SuperMario wroteCOLONI have a pending trade that I can't post till I cut some cap. Block is below. Hit me up if interested.
2-for-1 NHLers Required Minimum (with a prospect/pick added on)
Mikko Koivu
Mike Ribeiro
Tomas Plekanec
Joe Pavelski
Patrick Sharp
Chris Kunitz
Marc-Edouard Vlassic
NHLer + prospect + pick
Pascal Dupuis
Clarke MacArthur
Chris Higgins
Mason Raymond
Andrej Sekera
Roman Polak
Open to ideas
Drew Miller
Nathan Gerbe
Mark Fayne
David Schlemko
Victor Bartley
Cam Ward + CAR system
If you have interest, send me concrete offers. Offers that you will be willing to post if I say yes.
PM/Skype.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:57 pm
by Shep
Ribeiro for Upshall
Boom. 2 mil.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:58 pm
by Lee
Offer of miller + nj for ranger stands.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:02 pm
by shooker
http://bbkl.hockey.cbssports.com/player ... p/scoring?
sharp for vrbata.
Keep in mind Sharp has played 6 more games.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:03 pm
by Robin Hood
Lee wroteCOLONOffer of miller + nj for ranger stands.
Sorry Lee.
No offence but your valuations on your players are terrible. The number of times you have asked for too much for your guys only to have them plummet in value a month later is exceeded only by Paul.
1 week ago: Hey Lee, Morrow or a 1st in 2014 + Colaiacovo for Ranger
This week: Ranger scratched for the second straight game, Leafs play their best game of the season
In 3 Weeks: Ranger traded/waived/scratched for 20 straight games.
Story of Lee's life.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:03 pm
by Robin Hood
Nopity. I like Vrbata but it would take a significant piece on top to get Sharpie.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:04 pm
by kimmer
my biggest mistake this season was trading away sharp for Edler + garbage
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:04 pm
by shooker
SuperMario wroteCOLON
Nopity. I like Vrbata but it would take a significant piece on top to get Sharpie.
A piece I wouldn't add. Very similar stats actually and 2.9 in Cap space. Don't feel that needs an add.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:05 pm
by Robin Hood
shooker wroteCOLONSuperMario wroteCOLON
Nopity. I like Vrbata but it would take a significant piece on top to get Sharpie.
A piece I wouldn't add. Very similar stats actually and 2.9 in Cap space. Don't feel that needs an add.
Definitely understand your argument but we disagree. Thanks though!
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:06 pm
by KapG
gooker wroteCOLONmy biggest mistake this season was trading away sharp for Edler + garbage
Yah I hooked u up lol
Legwand atkinson and despres for him. I may have added something not sure.
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:07 pm
by kimmer
lol theyre on a different tier. I would never do sharp for "hot" vrbata straight up
it was pateryn kyle
but now looking at the cycle, I have Filppula Daley Anisimov 2014 1st SJS for Sharp Michalek so mehhhh
Re: I Need to Cut $2M in Cap
PostedCOLON Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:08 pm
by shooker
I knew you would say no. I just offered as I was planning on making an offer of vrbata + for sharp earlier this week but decided against it after running the numbers. Was fresh on the brain.