Vancouver GM needed

[Chris]

It doesn't seem like a resolution will be made regarding Nick and Mik's refusal to publicize their FOR research, so I'm finished with the BBKL until further notice. I strongly dislike the disingenuous behaviour from Nick, and want no part where I feel like any issue brought forth will be replied to with evasiveness or ridicule.

Good luck, gents. I thoroughly enjoyed my time spent here.

[Nick]

Chris I've invited you on MSN to talk through it; i thought i was clear that the forum is tough to have a proper conversation. Really had no idea it was bothering you to this extent.

[anton]

bro, we get along well but you are a complete faggot sometimes lmao.


peace

[armandtanzarian]

Lol, serious? Is this Ryan? I am having deja vu of Ryan / Kareem. Really sucks that you have no trust in long time members of this league debating a rule that was meant to bring balance in positioning and close a loophole of dual eligibility. Some pretty smart guys in here who only do there best for the betterment of the league. I am unaware of other issues you may have going on but to quit a league you obviously love over such a thing is quite childish, imo. Hope you come to your senses. It would be your loss as well as BBKL's, as you are a great GM.

[anton]

im looking forward to the ESPN special that reveals which team Neel will take.

[Mike]

im looking forward to the ESPN special that reveals which team Neel will take.

imma break it over twitter

[anton]

im predicting he takes his talents to white rock

[Chris]

Chris I've invited you on MSN to talk through it; i thought i was clear that the forum is tough to have a proper conversation. Really had no idea it was bothering you to this extent.

I asked you several times about it, and each time you evaded the questions. When I asked -- quite a few times by the way -- about how the FOR #s came about -- you tried to assure me that there was a lot of effort put into this policy. I couldn't care less that Brassard's a centre. I couldn't care less that Anisimov's a centre. Fact is, they are *versatile* which means that they can play a variety of different positions -- but that's not my issue either. My issue is that you and Mik are incapable of accepting what was once constructive criticism about the policy. You're a remarkably poor communicator on MSN, so I stopped bothering weeks ago. I think the request to have the FOR research published is a fair and legitimate reason to make this policy as transparent as possible as a lot of the treads behind it are disjointed from the main purpose -- which is to make a centre a centre and a winger a winger. Since that's not going to happen, I'm not even going to bother with this league. Certain rules should have a research thread, a purpose, and an explanation. I don't see any of that.

And yes, Anton, I'm aware I look like a retard.

[Scott]

Is this for real? Seriously quitting over this? Maaaaaaaaan..

[Chris]

Lol, serious? Is this Ryan? I am having deja vu of Ryan / Kareem. Really sucks that you have no trust in long time members of this league debating a rule that was meant to bring balance in positioning and close a loophole of dual eligibility. Some pretty smart guys in here who only do there best for the betterment of the league. I am unaware of other issues you may have going on but to quit a league you obviously love over such a thing is quite childish, imo. Hope you come to your senses. It would be your loss as well as BBKL's, as you are a great GM.

I get that some of you are okay with the rule. To be perfectly honest, I would be okay with it too if I could see the research behind it. It's one thing to claim that people put effort into it, it's another to expect someone to just accept it. I'm in a position where being a new GM means that I'm not always aware of the reasoning behind certain rules. I certainly understood it from Mike's perspective when he gave me shit for the draft pick rule -- I manned up and apologized, didn't I? But telling me I'm out of my place for even questioning the rule or requesting transparency on the research behind it tells me that any rule put forth by the CC needs to be accepted without question; even if the means don't always fulfil the end.

[Chris]

And for the record, I never wanted to be a part of the competition committee. Too prestigious of a position for a cunt like me.

[Arian The Insider]

dramaaaaaa

[Nick]

Chris my apologies for not successfully sharing the logic used, in NO WAY am I attempting to hide or evade the topic. The logic behind the .3FOR line was not a topic weeks ago, as we've talked through the C listings your concern has changed, at least from my perspective.

But, to be clear. This rule was not decided in a single day, nor does the logic lie in a single post for the .3FOR. I don't feel like I should have to spend time solo to go through all the players we looked at. It was not just Mik and myself, we had the entire CC, admins and other members involved, the rule was not written in stone on one day, and was revised several times. really short message here, will take the time tomorrow to show you if this is something you'll quit over.

have mens league hockey right now, in no way am i avoiding answering you.

[armandtanzarian]

So you are asking for nick to dig up the thread that was 20 pages long and repost it? The thread where we all argued to death for approx 3 months and then finally all CC and Admin team came to an agreement on a system to close a loophole? I had the same concerns initially but when you consider the system in place it works. The sample size will only get better and more accurate. You are just going to have to put your emotions aside and trust that a lot of dedication and time by many people went into making this rule. I guess you have already made the decision that you just can't get past not being part of everything that was decided before you joined. Its too bad...your a very active and knowledgeable GM. You will never fill your fantasy craving for hockey in any other league. I suggest you rethink your decision to step down over such an issue and resolve it behind closed doors before making such a post as you already have.

[anton]

i predict facy goes -3, 0 pts, 10 pims tonight (all minors)

[Chris]

So you are asking for nick to dig up the thread that was 20 pages long and repost it? The thread where we all argued to death for approx 3 months and then finally all CC and Admin team came to an agreement on a system to close a loophole? I had the same concerns initially but when you consider the system in place it works. The sample size will only get better and more accurate. You are just going to have to put your emotions aside and trust that a lot of dedication and time by many people went into making this rule. I guess you have already made the decision that you just can't get past not being part of everything that was decided before you joined. Its too bad...your a very active and knowledgeable GM. You will never fill your fantasy craving for hockey in any other league. I suggest you rethink your decision to step down over such an issue and resolve it behind closed doors before making such a post as you already have.

I'm asking to publish it so everyone can see it. I don't understand why it's such a big deal. I've already displayed in my draft pick interaction with Mike that I can conform to a rule when I understand its purpose -- and for the record, I apologised to Mike for taking a swing at him over it after he brought it up for the 100th time. My biggest issue with the FOR policy was the 26 games threshold. For whatever reason, it's considered proportionate to a 25 weeks BBKL season, and I don't really understand why. I have asked repeatedly about it and got the same evasive answers. Billy took the time to actually explain in more detail about the FOR rules than Nick or Mik ever have, and neither of them are willing to actually explain the research that went behind it. If Yahoo! can make players dually eligible for positions, then why not do the same for the BBKL? These are simple questions that should be answered on the spot if asked and I've been waiting for weeks for a clear explanation. It's only been recently that I've finally had enough.

It looks like my CBS account has been blocked, so this thread seems to be final for whoever revoked league privilege.

[Tony]

it pisses me off too, but c'mon ... just say "fuck you" and move on

[anton]

thread is a waste of time.

he quit. we've basically already found a replacement. time to move on.

[Tony]

thread is a waste of time.

he quit. we've basically already found a replacement. time to move on.

fuck you

[anton]

tony picks a fight with anton. this can only go one way....