Trade: ANA/NJD - Big Trade

[Scott]

To Anaheim

Ryan Johansen

To New Jersey

Marian Hossa

[MSP4LYFE]

Love it for Cliff

[The BBKL Insider]

Rape for scott

[KapG]

solllllllid.

for both teams. Like it for Cliff going into the future if I had to pick one side.

[MSP4LYFE]

Rape for scott

Johansen is going to be franchise player good soon, just watch...

[Scott]

it's a solid trade. I like it for Cliff too but imho, Marian Hossa>>Mikhail Grabovski & 2 meh prospects I gave up.. it was really a no brainer

[Arian The Insider]

looks like cliff is looking into the future with his team

[MSP4LYFE]

it's a solid trade. I like it for Cliff too but imho, Marian Hossa>>Mikhail Grabovski & 2 meh prospects I gave up.. it was really a no brainer

I would take Grabo at this stage over Hossa, especially at their respective cap hits, Schroeder and Rattie were just gravy.

[Scott]

it's a solid trade. I like it for Cliff too but imho, Marian Hossa>>Mikhail Grabovski & 2 meh prospects I gave up.. it was really a no brainer

I would take Grabo at this stage over Hossa, especially at their respective cap hits, Schroeder and Rattie were just gravy.

Not me.. not even close. Hossa's a legit 1st line player who does it all. Grabo's had one good year with a lot to prove still. I'd never trade Hossa for Grabo straight up and neither would the Hawks.

[MSP4LYFE]

it's a solid trade. I like it for Cliff too but imho, Marian Hossa>>Mikhail Grabovski & 2 meh prospects I gave up.. it was really a no brainer

I would take Grabo at this stage over Hossa, especially at their respective cap hits, Schroeder and Rattie were just gravy.

Not me.. not even close. Hossa's a legit 1st line player who does it all. Grabo's had one good year with a lot to prove still. I'd never trade Hossa for Grabo straight up and neither would the Hawks.

Grabo takes draws, has proven he can score between 50-60 points, puts up some pims and hits, and Wilson proclaimed he will use Grabo and Kulemin on the pk more this season (had 90ish minutes last yr). At 2.9 million there really isn't much of a debate, IMO. Another consideration is that Hossa hasnt played 80 games since 07, and has been in decline the last few years, but hey if you like Hossa that much, all the power to you brother; I would take Grabovski.

[cliff11]

Done deal boys

Nice dealing with ya scott

[Scott]

it's a solid trade. I like it for Cliff too but imho, Marian Hossa>>Mikhail Grabovski & 2 meh prospects I gave up.. it was really a no brainer

I would take Grabo at this stage over Hossa, especially at their respective cap hits, Schroeder and Rattie were just gravy.

Not me.. not even close. Hossa's a legit 1st line player who does it all. Grabo's had one good year with a lot to prove still. I'd never trade Hossa for Grabo straight up and neither would the Hawks.

Grabo takes draws, has proven he can score between 50-60 points with even greater upside, and Wilson proclaimed he will use Grabo and Kulemin on the pk more this season. At 2.9 million there really isn't much of a debate, IMO. Another consideration is that Hossa hasnt played 80 games since 07, and has been in decline the last few years, but hey if you like Hossa that much, all the power to you brother; I would take Grabovski, and like I said the prospects were just gravy.

I haven't seen any decline in his game whatsoever.. stilla legit 70+ point guy if healthy. And he's due for a healthy season here as he's still a young 32.

We all know this deal made my team fucking real real good. Sure, I'll probably regret trading Johansen but meh.. if I three-peat, I'll laugh pretty hard too..

[MSP4LYFE]

I'd never trade Hossa for Grabo straight up and neither would the Hawks.

Grabo is younger, cheaper and on the rise. Plus the Leafs have a gaping hole in the middle, ditto with the Hawks on the second line, I don't think it is as sure a thing as you do. Of course, I have no insight into the hawks or leafs management room, so I can only speculate.

This is all irrelevant however, as real life production and H2H production are separate.

[The BBKL Insider]

I like RJ a lot, but I think hossa brings a lot in this league!

[fedro91]

looks like cliff is looking into the future with his team

WHo's interested in 1st Ana 2013?

[MSP4LYFE]

I haven't seen any decline in his game whatsoever.. stilla legit 70+ point guy if healthy. And he's due for a healthy season here as he's still a young 32.

We all know this deal made my team fucking real real good. Sure, I'll probably regret trading Johansen but meh.. if I three-peat, I'll laugh pretty hard too..

You are either deliberately obtuse, or didn't bother to check. In Atlanta, Hossa put up 92 and 100 points respectively. He has yet to score 80 or ppg since, and in the last three seasons he has seen his ppg clip drop, that is defined as a decline in production.

The second argument is just asinine, players don't recover from injury because they are due. The more injuries a player incurs, the less likely he is to return to full health, especially as that player gets older.

As for where this puts your team, it's hard to say. Marian Hossa is an established talent, but one who has had issues staying healthy the last few seasons. Ryan Johansen is unproven by contrast, but highly regarded with alot of opportunity in Columbus, it would not be a surprise to see him flourish in a similar fashion to Logan Couture last season. It will be interesting to follow.

[shooker]

Done deal boys

Nice dealing with ya scott

nobody likes a liar.

[Scott]

Done deal boys

Nice dealing with ya scott

nobody likes a liar.

haha..

it was literally.

Scott: "anyone for sale"
Cliff: "possibly Hossa"
Scott: "What are you looking for?"
Cliff: "young NHLers"
Scott: "Would you do Ryan Johansen for Marian Hossa"
Cliff: "Let me think about it, I'll get back to you in a day"
Scott: "OK"

.....

10 minutes later I had a PM saying post it up.

[cliff11]

Done deal boys

Nice dealing with ya scott

nobody likes a liar.

haha..

it was literally.

Scott: "anyone for sale"
Cliff: "possibly Hossa"
Scott: "What are you looking for?"
Cliff: "young NHLers"
Scott: "Would you do Ryan Johansen for Marian Hossa"
Cliff: "Let me think about it, I'll get back to you in a day"
Scott: "OK"

.....

10 minutes later I had a PM saying post it up.

True story boys haha quick and easy trade

[Nick]

RNH & RoJO

pretty tasty centre core moving forward