Jesse Blacker

[Robin Hood]

First of all do you understand that Phonetically Jesse translates to being spelled as Jessy? I speak French better than I write it, and phonetically I think something is supposed to be spelt one way when its the opposite all the time. But that's not even the issue

Erm, so this gives us license to misspell players whose names are not innately obvious? No. That is highly disrespectful. Your last name, if memory serves, is Narayanan. This is not something I would spell properly without first thinking on it. I would hope you would return this courtesy by naming me Morris, not Norris, or Morse.

You have no idea how well he does or does not know English.

His English is conversationally superior to my French. My written French is superior to his written English because I put in the effort.

We have no idea whether how he writes currently takes a lot of brain power in itself. And is this not supposed to be a fun league? You want the guy to pull out a dictionary every time he makes a forum post?

Fun league? Absolutely. That involves (to me at least) being able to understand what other GMs are saying. Maybe he doesn't, as you suggested, possess the requisite brain power to type in a cohesive fashion - and maybe that should be a requirement in place for all new GMs: the ability to communicate properly.

I bet if you read your last post on another day, you would think of it to be pretentious and anal.

Sure. Call me what you like.

Let's be a little tolerant.

I refuse to be tolerant of idiocy. We are adults, we should communicate as such.

I can understand frank 95% of the time. 5% of the time he is incomprehensible. But the language barrier is largely responsible. If this was the posting of a trade, I am in full support. I have given Frank shit on msn to make sure he posts his trades properly. But this whole conversation started because of Jesse Blacker being put on the block. And even THAT is fine. But nudge him on msn/tell him to fix it. This gets taken to a whole another level when we start talking about kicking out competent GMs or being intolerant of how difficult it is to be in a community where you are the only person whose first language isn't English.

[Mike]

I can understand frank 95% of the time. 5% of the time he is incomprehensible. But the language barrier is largely responsible. If this was the posting of a trade, I am in full support. I have given Frank shit on msn to make sure he posts his trades properly. But this whole conversation started because of Jesse Blacker being put on the block. And even THAT is fine. But nudge him on msn/tell him to fix it. This gets taken to a whole another level when we start talking about kicking out competent GMs or being intolerant of how difficult it is to be in a community where you are the only person whose first language isn't English.

5% is a significant amount. You're cool with that? Sure, up to you. I'm not, so I don't talk to him unless he presents me with an offer.

Properly spelling player names has zero to do with any language barrier. Why should Yuri Alexandrov be any easier for me to spell than someone whose first language is French, or Hindi?

I don't know where you're getting this idea about booting competent GMs from. No 1, I'm not advocating kicking Frank out, simply having a (hah) written portion to the BBKL entrance exam. No 2, I'd contest labelling Frank competent, but that's just my opinion.

Frank is not the only person whose first language isn't English.

[Robin Hood]

I can understand frank 95% of the time. 5% of the time he is incomprehensible. But the language barrier is largely responsible. If this was the posting of a trade, I am in full support. I have given Frank shit on msn to make sure he posts his trades properly. But this whole conversation started because of Jesse Blacker being put on the block. And even THAT is fine. But nudge him on msn/tell him to fix it. This gets taken to a whole another level when we start talking about kicking out competent GMs or being intolerant of how difficult it is to be in a community where you are the only person whose first language isn't English.

5% is a significant amount. You're cool with that? Sure, up to you. I'm not, so I don't talk to him unless he presents me with an offer.

Properly spelling player names has zero to do with any language barrier. Why should Yuri Alexandrov be any easier for me to spell than someone whose first language is French, or Hindi?

I don't know where you're getting this idea about booting competent GMs from. No 1, I'm not advocating kicking Frank out, simply having a (hah) written portion to the BBKL entrance exam. No 2, I'd contest labelling Frank competent, but that's just my opinion.

Frank is not the only person whose first language isn't English.

I have given Frank shit myself on MSN for not spelling things correctly with regards to trades/his team page. But this is different. It's a trading block lol. It doesn't need to be searchable. It is easily fixable without an overreaction. Which is why my whole point in this thread has been that people are too hard on Frank. His English gets made fun of at least twice a day. It really is ridiculous. Half the people in this league seem to be fine with it. The other half seem to be on him every day.

[Mike]

He deserves the ridicule he gets. His posts are embarrassing. That makes me an asshole? So be it.

[Robin Hood]

What bothers me is not that people try to fix his grammar for the good of the league i.e. Search Purposes (if something like this is the reason I am all for it). But most of the time, his English gets made fun of as a form of ridicule/internet bullying to the 3rd observer. It really is constant and not cool. Make fun of the fact that he low balls, make fun of the fact that he is more persistent than I am on msn (which says a lot haha) but making fun of the guy simply because his English is bad is discriminatory.

[Mike]

What bothers me is not that people try to fix his grammar for the good of the league i.e. Search Purposes (if something like this is the reason I am all for it). But most of the time, his English gets made fun of as a form of ridicule/internet bullying to the 3rd observer. It really is constant and not cool. Make fun of the fact that he low balls, make fun of the fact that he is more persistent than I am on msn (which says a lot haha) but making fun of the guy simply because his English is bad is discriminatory.

My problem with Frank isn't so much his terrible English, but his lack of effort. He just doesn't give a shit. He doesn't even try. If that makes my behaviour discriminatory I welcome the label.

[Scott]

Get Frank's dick out of your mouth Shiv.. I'm constantly on Frank to do shit BBKL wise.. it's rather annoying how little he cares.

[Robin Hood]

What bothers me is not that people try to fix his grammar for the good of the league i.e. Search Purposes (if something like this is the reason I am all for it). But most of the time, his English gets made fun of as a form of ridicule/internet bullying to the 3rd observer. It really is constant and not cool. Make fun of the fact that he low balls, make fun of the fact that he is more persistent than I am on msn (which says a lot haha) but making fun of the guy simply because his English is bad is discriminatory.

My problem with Frank isn't so much his terrible English, but his lack of effort. He just doesn't give a shit. He doesn't even try. If that makes my behaviour discriminatory I welcome the label.

Agreed. I've had the same conversation with him on msn a couple of times. The most we can really do it tell him to step it up. He knows he's on a short leash. Hopefully he can turn it around.

[Robin Hood]

Get Frank's dick out of your mouth Shiv.. I'm constantly on Frank to do shit BBKL wise.. it's rather annoying how little he cares.

Completely unnecessary Scott. If you properly read my posts, I agree with you and Mike. As long as it is BBKL related, Frank needs to get his shit together. I am just against ridiculing him and his English for the sake of it.

[kyuss]

yes, these can be considered minor, but its all part of a bigger issue - frank not taking 3 fucking seconds to make his shit accurate.

this.

and Shiv, i'm Italian and i do not live in North America..

[Tony]

and Shiv, i'm Italian and i do not live in North America..

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[Shep]

Think about it.. if Blacker wasn't a Leaf prospect, or was just a really minor prospect, and was posted as "Jesse Becker" people may legitimately think that is his name and wonder who the hell he is and where all the information is on this guy.

[fedro91]

I do agree I don't take my time enough with my writting but being bullied and laugh at cause of spelling error is ridiculous.
Now my deals are done properly. Mike love to hate me, same with a couple of you guy's. If you think I'm imature for writting incorrectly then what you think are by always bringing me down. I've done nothing but turn the page and give everyone a chance. SO why not just like me for who I am. If I'm a silly guy then so be it. We should are get along. I feel we get in each other faces for nothing. Why get mad cause I wrote Jessy Becker instead of Jesse Blacker. I love this pool soo much and I give my all and I still get bullied. There no other gm that is commited as me to there team. So don't ever say I don't care about BBKL or my team cause you know I simply do. So you guy's are telling me I'm waisting my time spending half of my day in here? You guy's think your all so mighty, who the fuck yoiu think to tell me how to be, what to say and how to behave. This is so insulting to be judge by the way I write in any of my trade block or my post. I wouldn't change anything about me to be someone like Chicage that love making fun of everyone to make him feel better of himself. I will try my best not to do spelling errors but most of what I write is understandable. So if you hate the way I put words together then so be it. The only thing is have a nice day and kiss my ass.

[bills09]

lol

[Lee]

Yeah. Fuck that Anton guy.

LET'S PUT ANOTHER SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE, MATE.

[anton]

they call them prawns here

[MSP4LYFE]

I do agree I don't take my time enough with my writting but being bullied and laugh at cause of spelling error is ridiculous.
Now my deals are done properly. Mike love to hate me, same with a couple of you guy's. If you think I'm imature for writting incorrectly then what you think are by always bringing me down. I've done nothing but turn the page and give everyone a chance. SO why not just like me for who I am. If I'm a silly guy then so be it. We should are get along. I feel we get in each other faces for nothing. Why get mad cause I wrote Jessy Becker instead of Jesse Blacker. I love this pool soo much and I give my all and I still get bullied. There no other gm that is commited as me to there team. So don't ever say I don't care about BBKL or my team cause you know I simply do. So you guy's are telling me I'm waisting my time spending half of my day in here? You guy's think your all so mighty, who the fuck yoiu think to tell me how to be, what to say and how to behave. This is so insulting to be judge by the way I write in any of my trade block or my post. I wouldn't change anything about me to be someone like Chicage that love making fun of everyone to make him feel better of himself. I will try my best not to do spelling errors but most of what I write is understandable. So if you hate the way I put words together then so be it. The only thing is have a nice day and kiss my ass.

translation, "I'm sorry"

[Lee]

Just in Mooloolaba? Or in aergarkvaj4h5bfq3bh4fndfjkvbekfdfv as well?

[MSP4LYFE]

they call them prawns here

My family does as well (from South Africa).

[Nick]

Prawns and shrimps are different things.