That move alone doesn't make a huge difference. It either has to be two switches of this nature, OR one massive switch in which a powerhouse changes teams with a bad team. Your team, while not a true powerhouse, is still a very good team, and powerhouse in the West. It wouldn't do a whole lot if you switched alone.Snipeshow wroteCOLONI'd contemplate a switch with Nick, though I wouldn't make any promises.
It'll significantly strengthen the West while significantly weaken the East.
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That rewards teams with weak schedules more than our current set up does. Lets keep it authentic to the NHL in terms of conferences and divisions, I see no reason to change that aspect.bills09 wroteCOLONDrop conferences, top 16 make the playoffs.
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Agreed.inferno31 wroteCOLONThat rewards teams with weak schedules more than our current set up does. Lets keep it authentic to the NHL in terms of conferences and divisions, I see no reason to change that aspect.bills09 wroteCOLONDrop conferences, top 16 make the playoffs.
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IMO a North East switching with a Central makes the most sense.MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONThat move alone doesn't make a huge difference. It either has to be two switches of this nature, OR one massive switch in which a powerhouse changes teams with a bad team. Your team, while not a true powerhouse, is still a very good team, and powerhouse in the West. It wouldn't do a whole lot if you switched alone.Snipeshow wroteCOLONI'd contemplate a switch with Nick, though I wouldn't make any promises.
It'll significantly strengthen the West while significantly weaken the East.
But 3 of them are managing their favourite teams, so that makes things much more difficult. Kareem moving in terms of strength makes sense, but it now really weakens the South East.
IMO the most logical swap is Boston and Columbus, but I know Kyle wouldn't do this because he wants to manage Boston and rightfully so.
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It makes more sense for Kyle to move but I don't mind giving up the Leafs if need be.Snipeshow wroteCOLONIMO a North East switching with a Central makes the most sense.MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONThat move alone doesn't make a huge difference. It either has to be two switches of this nature, OR one massive switch in which a powerhouse changes teams with a bad team. Your team, while not a true powerhouse, is still a very good team, and powerhouse in the West. It wouldn't do a whole lot if you switched alone.Snipeshow wroteCOLONI'd contemplate a switch with Nick, though I wouldn't make any promises.
It'll significantly strengthen the West while significantly weaken the East.
But 3 of them are managing their favourite teams, so that makes things much more difficult. Kareem moving in terms of strength makes sense, but it now really weakens the South East.
IMO the most logical swap is Boston and Columbus, but I know Kyle wouldn't do this because he wants to manage Boston and rightfully so.
That being said, I don't feel it's necessary to make a move.
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Agreed, but like you said, they won't do it, so the next logical step is moving someone who will, I.E. ME.Snipeshow wroteCOLONIMO a North East switching with a Central makes the most sense.MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONThat move alone doesn't make a huge difference. It either has to be two switches of this nature, OR one massive switch in which a powerhouse changes teams with a bad team. Your team, while not a true powerhouse, is still a very good team, and powerhouse in the West. It wouldn't do a whole lot if you switched alone.Snipeshow wroteCOLONI'd contemplate a switch with Nick, though I wouldn't make any promises.
It'll significantly strengthen the West while significantly weaken the East.
But 3 of them are managing their favourite teams, so that makes things much more difficult. Kareem moving in terms of strength makes sense, but it now really weakens the South East.
IMO the most logical swap is Boston and Columbus, but I know Kyle wouldn't do this because he wants to manage Boston and rightfully so.
Divisions really don't matter as much as conferences do, especially when a supposed weak division, has a legit powerhouse (TBL). It would be more of an issue, if a weaker team like NSH won the 3rd seed because there was no one better. With TBL currently in the division, I don't view it as a huge deal.
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Mike + Billy for BryMa + Mik is the best case scenario imoMike wroteCOLONIt makes more sense for Kyle to move but I don't mind giving up the Leafs if need be.
That being said, I don't feel it's necessary to make a move.
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who knows.. could be.MSP4LYFE wroteCOLON No, of course not because the Central is the future of the BBKL!
never said divisions are equal now.. point is in the future things could change soon, and in any case, we would find ourselves again in a similar situation in the future.. with someone else crying about how we need to balance divisions and conference, as we did in 2011, why should we not in 2013...And the divisions are perfectly fair right now, no need to change anything. STATUS QUO FTW!
it is not about keeping the status quo per se, it is about avoiding useless work and confusion.
as i said 10 days ago in the CC forum:
-there is not real need for it (the central being a weak division moving forward is pure specualtion, and very probably a wrong one btw) and it brings a lot of confusion, which is therefore unnecessary confusion.
-i don't like the fact that some would get the chance of relocating and some others wouldn't.
-i don't like the fact that a GM can make a trade overpaying to a team in the other conference (and accept to overpay and make the deal because of that), just to find that same team in his same division the following season..
- so much for realism LOL
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Can't quote for w.e reason, but this is in response to Mik:
This isn't the real NHL, in our league the best are the best hockey minds or transaction specialists, they won't lose those abilities so it is fair to assume that the best at what they do know, will be the best at what they do tomorrow. If we deal with this the right way, we will never have to worry about it again, barring a high general manager turnover rate.
This isn't the real NHL, in our league the best are the best hockey minds or transaction specialists, they won't lose those abilities so it is fair to assume that the best at what they do know, will be the best at what they do tomorrow. If we deal with this the right way, we will never have to worry about it again, barring a high general manager turnover rate.
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That doesn't make a huge difference in the balance, IMO. It is better than nothing, but I would like to stress that we do this the right way the first time, to avoide ever having to discuss it again.shooker wroteCOLONMike + Billy for BryMa + Mik is the best case scenario imoMike wroteCOLONIt makes more sense for Kyle to move but I don't mind giving up the Leafs if need be.
That being said, I don't feel it's necessary to make a move.
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WSH <--> EDM
TOR <---> STL
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I understand we don't have a 50/50 balance between the conferences and with 6 divisions, you're going to have more competitive ones than others but we can't keep doing this every year just because one conference appears to have the upper hand over the other. As long as Scott is in the East, more than likely, they'll be the better conference. We can't keep doing this every year...as I said before, play with the hand you're dealt. I don't think the set up is unfair in any way. In the end, it's about the best team rising above the rest regardless of conference affiliation to win the league title. We can get into the minutia of having perfect balance between all 6 divisions and both conferences...it just won't happen. I'm more concerned that we have 30 active GMs.
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The balance is more like 70/30, which is the problem.Shoalzie wroteCOLONI understand we don't have a 50/50 balance between the conferences and with 6 divisions, you're going to have more competitive ones than others but we can't keep doing this every year just because one conference appears to have the upper hand over the other. As long as Scott is in the East, more than likely, they'll be the better conference. We can't keep doing this every year...as I said before, play with the hand you're dealt. I don't think the set up is unfair in any way. In the end, it's about the best team rising above the rest regardless of conference affiliation to win the league title. We can get into the minutia of have perfect balance between all 6 divisions and both conferences...it just won't happen. I'm more concerned that we have 30 active GMs.
Your point about the best teams winning regardless is simply untrue, in the East the best have to face the best each round in the playoffs, save for the top 2 seeds in round 1. It is incredibly difficult for anyone, even Scott to have 3 consecutive great weeks in the East, and that is what it often takes. Whereas the best teams in the West can coast until the conference finals.
It is an incredible disadvantage, and one I refuse to accept. Like I have said countless times, if we do it right once it will not be an issue in the future. The problem arises when we cut corners or make minuscule changes to appease both sides. Hell, looking at the standings this season, there isn't a single team (save for maybe Mike, but we all knew he would be great eventually) who came out of nowhere to be really good...The smart managers always rise to the top, and that won't change. Switch the right people, and everything will work itself out.
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Wouldn't it make more sense to move one of the more weak teams in the Central?..MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONThat doesn't make a huge difference in the balance, IMO. It is better than nothing, but I would like to stress that we do this the right way the first time, to avoide ever having to discuss it again.shooker wroteCOLONMike + Billy for BryMa + Mik is the best case scenario imoMike wroteCOLONIt makes more sense for Kyle to move but I don't mind giving up the Leafs if need be.
That being said, I don't feel it's necessary to make a move.
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You're right, switch EDM to CBJ.Snipeshow wroteCOLONWouldn't it make more sense to move one of the more weak teams in the Central?..
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If Mike moves to the west, I call DIBS on the Leafs.
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That's fine, but I more meant WSH <--> CBJ and TOR <--> EDMMSP4LYFE wroteCOLONYou're right, switch EDM to CBJ.Snipeshow wroteCOLONWouldn't it make more sense to move one of the more weak teams in the Central?..
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That would over-stack the NW imo.Snipeshow wroteCOLONThat's fine, but I more meant WSH <--> CBJ and TOR <--> EDMMSP4LYFE wroteCOLONYou're right, switch EDM to CBJ.Snipeshow wroteCOLONWouldn't it make more sense to move one of the more weak teams in the Central?..
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Then just do WSH for CBJ.MSP4LYFE wroteCOLONThat would over-stack the NW imo.Snipeshow wroteCOLONThat's fine, but I more meant WSH <--> CBJ and TOR <--> EDMMSP4LYFE wroteCOLONYou're right, switch EDM to CBJ.Snipeshow wroteCOLONWouldn't it make more sense to move one of the more weak teams in the Central?..
I don't want to move because I want to be the Blues. I don't care if you guys stack up my division or my conference. That's the only reason I don't really want to move at all, because I really like the team I am.
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