Erik Karlsson - D

[TheNudge]

Hey guy’s,

I’m putting Erik Karlsson OTB and looking for a package that includes a good young center…

Karlsson currently putting up good numbers offensively - 11g-17a - 28pts in 19 gp with 1PPG - 5 PPA - Avg over25 min per games and over 3 min of PP.


Let’s talk !!

[Handsome&FairMike]

Dude is a stud. Cap is a killer.

[TheNudge]

Dude is a stud. Cap is a killer.

I’m Willing to retain 50% for this year if it was allowed.

[DApolloS]

Dude is a stud. Cap is a killer.

I’m Willing to retain 50% for this year if it was allowed.

Even if it was allowed, cap retention is for a contract and not just certain amount of years.

[TheNudge]

Dude is a stud. Cap is a killer.

I’m Willing to retain 50% for this year if it was allowed.

Even if it was allowed, cap retention is for a contract and not just certain amount of years.

I totally disagree with you on forcing a team to retain on the full contract. Every league that I’ve been in that use cap retention do not have such restrictions like forcing a gm to retain the full contract. It should be up to the gm’s on the retention term. The only retention guidelines I see that we should force is the amount of retention a team can have and having a max % a team can retain. I would hope the % would be no higher then 50%. That’s my take and I have the right to have such opinion and you have the right to yours.

[Handsome&FairMike]

Dude is a stud. Cap is a killer.

I’m Willing to retain 50% for this year if it was allowed.

Even if it was allowed, cap retention is for a contract and not just certain amount of years.

I totally disagree with you on forcing a team to retain on the full contract. Every league that I’ve been in that use cap retention do not have such restrictions like forcing a gm to retain the full contract. It should be up to the gm’s on the retention term. The only retention guidelines I see that we should force is the amount of retention a team can have and having a max % a team can retain. I would hope the % would be no higher then 50%. That’s my take and I have the right to have such opinion and you have the right to yours.

Ugh that would be annoying to manage. I’d be for cap retention but would be full contract or nothing.

[Florida Chris]

I wonder if Fantrax even has that option. I think it would be cool if we could mimic NHL rules.

[The BBKL Insider]

I actually think each team should be allowed to retain on 2 players. Once the contract expires they could be free to retain on players again.

[DApolloS]

Dude is a stud. Cap is a killer.

I’m Willing to retain 50% for this year if it was allowed.

Even if it was allowed, cap retention is for a contract and not just certain amount of years.

I totally disagree with you on forcing a team to retain on the full contract. Every league that I’ve been in that use cap retention do not have such restrictions like forcing a gm to retain the full contract. It should be up to the gm’s on the retention term. The only retention guidelines I see that we should force is the amount of retention a team can have and having a max % a team can retain. I would hope the % would be no higher then 50%. That’s my take and I have the right to have such opinion and you have the right to yours.

No need to disagree with me. I'm simply pointing out how it is in the NHL. You might like it as a GM getting rid of a big contract, but if I was running a league, retention wpuld be for the life of the contract, otherwise every off-season there would be more work to review each contract to make sure the proper ones have their retention eliminated.

Either way, we've already had these arguments. For me, the workload for those running the league must always be taken into account when making changes to a league, and I believe if we were able to use retention, full contract is what has the least amount of work.

Doesn't matter anyway, not like it will happen.

[DApolloS]

I actually think each team should be allowed to retain on 2 players. Once the contract expires they could be free to retain on players again.

That's how NHLDL is. Team's use retention all the time. You get way more for an overpriced player.

[Bruyns]

It's been talked about as an option, definitely wouldn't be implemented mid season though. Sounds like it needs to be reexamined this offseason, reasons against it are it creates an even larger gap between the haves and the have nots. We are continuing to gain more parity in this league with not as many teams completely devoid of assets and a lot more that are serious contenders. Allowing teams to load up could end up with only a handful of teams really having a chance to win.

There is the thought that it will help the bad teams to move contracts and while this is true there is also the risk of bad teams retaining cap and then missing out on buying opportunities when teams have to dump salary each off season. Another risk is trying to keep GMs engaged and getting new GMs for weaker teams is always difficult and when you now have millions of dead cap and a bad team it's even less appealing.

I would say in ADHL and NHLDL the cap retention has been overall a positive addition and I'm not completely against it in BBKL. The main purpose of making big contracts more moveable has been fulfilled, but it hasn't been perfect. Smart GMs exploit weaker ones getting retained players for prospects and picks that don't pan out and there are definitely some real bad teams that retaining hasn't really helped. In NHLDL last week a team just sold off a 26 year old Rantanen with three years of retention at 4.6M per year because he wanted to get younger. He received 4.6M of dead cap for three years, Nemec who is a 4.2M cap hit himself and two other prospects who I think are trending down in Brisson and Soderstrom. There was not one comment in that trade thread and to me this is the perfect example of the dangers of retention. The acquiring team is easily a top 5 team and was arguably already a favourite to win it all, now he preys on a weaker GM only paying Rantanen 400K more than Nemec for the next three years and giving up two players who likely weren't impacting his roster.

[Bruyns]

To add in the NHL you don't see retention used much on multi year deals. It is more used at the deadline to retain on expiring contracts. In our leagues a lot of teams have millions of dead cap for multiple years since it got them a "better return" this doesn't mimic the NHL.

[Matthew]

I'd say 2 years retention on a player Max the same way we do draft picks so as not to handicap future GMs of that team. would make sense to only have retention on the last 1 or 2 years of an NHL players NHL contract.

[KapG]

It's been talked about as an option, definitely wouldn't be implemented mid season though. Sounds like it needs to be reexamined this offseason, reasons against it are it creates an even larger gap between the haves and the have nots. We are continuing to gain more parity in this league with not as many teams completely devoid of assets and a lot more that are serious contenders. Allowing teams to load up could end up with only a handful of teams really having a chance to win.

There is the thought that it will help the bad teams to move contracts and while this is true there is also the risk of bad teams retaining cap and then missing out on buying opportunities when teams have to dump salary each off season. Another risk is trying to keep GMs engaged and getting new GMs for weaker teams is always difficult and when you now have millions of dead cap and a bad team it's even less appealing.

I would say in ADHL and NHLDL the cap retention has been overall a positive addition and I'm not completely against it in BBKL. The main purpose of making big contracts more moveable has been fulfilled, but it hasn't been perfect. Smart GMs exploit weaker ones getting retained players for prospects and picks that don't pan out and there are definitely some real bad teams that retaining hasn't really helped. In NHLDL last week a team just sold off a 26 year old Rantanen with three years of retention at 4.6M per year because he wanted to get younger. He received 4.6M of dead cap for three years, Nemec who is a 4.2M cap hit himself and two other prospects who I think are trending down in Brisson and Soderstrom. There was not one comment in that trade thread and to me this is the perfect example of the dangers of retention. The acquiring team is easily a top 5 team and was arguably already a favourite to win it all, now he preys on a weaker GM only paying Rantanen 400K more than Nemec for the next three years and giving up two players who likely weren't impacting his roster.

That rantanen trade reminds me of some of the garbage we would see in this league years ago lol.

[TheNudge]

Here’s how retention work in the NHL


What is a retained salary transaction/trade
When a team trades a player, they have the option to retain a part of their salary (and cap hit). The team who retains the salary then pays the retained percentage of the salary, and also retains the percentage of the cap hit until the contract expires. The following requirements must be met to retain salary:
The percentage retained cannot exceed 50 percent of the player’s salary (including all bonuses) and Salary Cap Hit.
The same percentage must be retained for both the player’s salary and Salary Cap Hit, and cannot be modified.
All teams are limited to a maximum of 3 retained salary contracts per season.
Teams cannot retain an aggregate amount of more than 15 percent of the Salary Cap Upper Limit.
Players’ contracts are limited to 2 retained salary transactions per contract.
Once a retained salary transcation has occurred, there are various limitations, such as:
A team cannot reacquire a player whom they have retained salary from for a minimum of one year after the date of the transaction, or unless the player's contract expires or is terminated prior to the one-year date.
All teams involved in a retained salary transaction will have cap implications if the contract is bought out or terminated.
Teams who retain salary on a players contract, will have the full value of the cap hit act against the teams salary cap total, regardless of whether the player is reassigned to the minors by their current team.

Link: https://www.capfriendly.com/faq

[dave1959]

Dude is a stud. Cap is a killer.

I’m Willing to retain 50% for this year if it was allowed.

Even if it was allowed, cap retention is for a contract and not just certain amount of years.

I totally disagree with you on forcing a team to retain on the full contract. Every league that I’ve been in that use cap retention do not have such restrictions like forcing a gm to retain the full contract. It should be up to the gm’s on the retention term. The only retention guidelines I see that we should force is the amount of retention a team can have and having a max % a team can retain. I would hope the % would be no higher then 50%. That’s my take and I have the right to have such opinion and you have the right to yours.

Frank, he was saying you need to retain for the full # of years of the contract, not the % of it.

[Shep]

I'd say 2 years retention on a player Max the same way we do draft picks so as not to handicap future GMs of that team. would make sense to only have retention on the last 1 or 2 years of an NHL players NHL contract.

This is a good idea.

[TheNudge]

Dude is a stud. Cap is a killer.

I’m Willing to retain 50% for this year if it was allowed.

Even if it was allowed, cap retention is for a contract and not just certain amount of years.

I totally disagree with you on forcing a team to retain on the full contract. Every league that I’ve been in that use cap retention do not have such restrictions like forcing a gm to retain the full contract. It should be up to the gm’s on the retention term. The only retention guidelines I see that we should force is the amount of retention a team can have and having a max % a team can retain. I would hope the % would be no higher then 50%. That’s my take and I have the right to have such opinion and you have the right to yours.

Frank, he was saying you need to retain for the full # of years of the contract, not the % of it.

I understood what he wrote and I just posted what the nhl does.

[Shoalzie]

What's unfortunate about the salary retention conversation, we've waited so long to implement this and before you know it, the cap is supposed to go up. I don't know if it'll go up the extent Bettman believes but that should help with the ability to move some of those big contracts that have been parked on rosters for a while.

For Frank, I hope Karlsson putting up huge numbers is not a mirage and maybe he's a guy that could be moved in the offseason, if not now. Sometimes vets actually live up to their big salaries but a lot of the time, they're just an overpriced shell of their former self. NHL teams paying guys over 30 to $10+ million salary on a new contract is criminal.

[DApolloS]

I would say in ADHL and NHLDL the cap retention has been overall a positive addition and I'm not completely against it in BBKL.

I don't think ADHL has retention. If it does, I haven't seen anyone utilize it since I joined in 2017(?)